[members-discuss] [EXT] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019

In addition to the  comments below I think idea to have multiple bank accounts in different countries  just to make some members proud because  paying in local currency will make entire service more expensive for nothing.
In addition adding more bureaucracy is never good.
We should look how to simplifying things not overcomplicated. The current option paying in euro is the best possible option.

About the earlier emails and comments about training, quality of service etc.
Honestly who is perfect, but  have you ever worked with others e.g. ARIN? Believe me it is not the same,  RIPE  is much better and always happy to help you.

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From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Aleksey Bulgakov
Sent: 13 April 2018 09:46
Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: [EXT] Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019

I completely agree. The Membership  in Russia was 150k rubles in 2014 and 255k rubles is now. The annual fees were 60k  rub in 2014 and 100k rub now.

пт, 13 Апр 2018 г., 10:21 Alexandr Gurbo <a.gurbo at severen.ru<mailto:a.gurbo at severen.ru>>:
Hello,

It is better to pay in our region in Russian rubles, in Europe in Euro, in England in pounds. All RIPE community should think about change not only about membership service fees, but and about currency per region.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:13:42 +0300
Juri <hostmaster at ntx.ru<mailto:hostmaster at ntx.ru>> wrote:

> Good note,
>
> But system is big and bureaucratic.
> I never see that board try to ask members if they are agree or not agree
> with something. Or what decision they would like to follow.
>
> Have you ever seen at polls in LIR portal for key questions?
> For training? For budget questions? I don't feel any feedback from that.
> Of course board would decide by them-self. But they should hear the
> voice and real stats of the community.
>
> RIPE NCC gets more and more funds from members, but service is still not
> good but suitable. It takes months and years to even fix bugs in LIR
> portal as example.
>
> If we have, lets say, same services. RIPE NCC get more members - then
> membership service fees should become lower! Otherwise that tells
> everybody that management from RIPE NCC is not efficient.
> RIPE NCC should work for members interests, but not as a commercial
> monopoly structure.
>
> Juri
>
>
> On 12.04.2018 15:35, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> > Juri wrote:
> >> Fiscal expenses must be justified and agreed with the members.
> >
> > I'm not sure it would be a good idea to support this level of
> > micromanagement - too many cooks spoil the broth.
> >
> > The RIPE NCC board publishes reports and budgets and the RIPE NCC
> > membership votes on whether or not to support the spending plans at RIPE
> > NCC general meetings.  This is how membership based organisations
> > usually work.
> >
> > As members, we elect a board to do the job of deciding whether or not
> > the spending requests from the RIPE NCC look reasonable.  If members
> > have a problem with how the board is handling this, they can put
> > themselves up for election to the board to fix the problems that they've
> > identified.
> >
> > Nick
> >
>
>
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