[members-discuss] Database Abuse

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On 7 Sep 2017 10:06 am, "Vegard Svanberg" <vegard at monsternett.no> wrote:

> * Tim Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com> [2017-09-05 10:36]:
>
> > I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there really nothing
> > structural we can do about this?
> > At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the public DB,
> > instead having public complaint submitted via a webform on the NCC
> > website, requiring the uninitiated to realise this is an abuse /
> > complaint contact, not a sales opportunity.
>
> I understand the problem (and get those pitches myself nearly daily). I
> have no alternative, simple solutions. I also haven't thought this
> through in detail. :-) However, and despite all that: I'd oppose the
> idea of hiding/obfuscating emails and centralising/limiting feedback
> loops to the NCC website. I'm concerned about the operational
> consequences of limiting the opportunity to collect emails and build and
> maintain lists of contact points (potentially) important for operations.
>
> And if we remove just emails, we'd probably have to do the same with
> phone numbers. They're calling from time to time as well.
>
> Again, I haven't thought this through, but it's the knee-jerk response
> anyway. Perhaps naming, shaming and blacklisting the offenders might be
> a better way to go. Perhaps verified members could get regular database
> dumps (including contact info) from other sources, or authenticate
> against the db to get the whole lot. I don't know. I'm not sure the
> problem is big enough to warrant any major changes.
>
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