[members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse

GET ME OUT OF THIS GROUP!!!!! I DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS!!!!


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From:   Mathias Peter <MPeter at mathpeter.com>
To:     "R. van Laake" <r.vanlaake at codelogic.eu>
Cc:     "members-discuss at ripe.net" <members-discuss at ripe.net>
Date:   05.09.2017 11:04
Subject:        Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
Sent by:        "members-discuss" <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>



Stop spaming! Now! Keep me out of this stuff!!!

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Am 05.09.2017 um 10:54 schrieb R. van Laake <r.vanlaake at codelogic.eu>:

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GET ME OFF THIS RECIPIENTS LIST.
 
I DIDN?T ASK FOR IT, I HAVE WORK TO DO AND DON?T NEED THIS DISTRACTION
 
 
 
 
 
From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf 
Of Tim Armstrong
Sent: dinsdag 5 september 2017 10:52
To: Catalin Dominte
Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
 
I agree entirely.
 
Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny.
 
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte <
catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk> wrote:
If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), that would be 
great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be gleaned from 
PeeringDB if one has an account there. 
 
My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am 
interested in a list of brand new contacts for C level management from 
various industries. Reported them all as spam, but they never stop. 
 
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On 5 September 2017 at 09:40:56, Telecoms (telco at intrinsec.com) wrote:
There is a new comment in the ticket submitted by Tim Armstrong to Cloud 
Temple - Cloud Operations

Comment added by : Tim Armstrong

Comment Content:
And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something about all the 
freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight auto-replies!
 
 
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com> 
wrote:
Hi all,
 
Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again, RIPE DB abuse is 
a real problem. 
Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via an e-mail address 
we only use for the contact details in our RIPE DB entries.
 
We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks, people offering to 
sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering, etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed 
pitches for services none of us want to waste time reading about. If we 
want such products, we all know how find them, and yet the e-mails don't 
stop coming.
 
I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the community, but if 
it doesn't stop, I don't see how I have a choice. They need to learn that 
database abuse leads to boycott.
The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and reporting issues & 
abuse; not a sales team's list of "potential leads".
 
I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there really nothing 
structural we can do about this? 
At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the public DB, instead 
having public complaint submitted via a webform on the NCC website, 
requiring the uninitiated to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, 
not a sales opportunity.
 
 
Thanks,
Tim.
 
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Tim Armstrong
Dark Lord of Network Operations
+31 6 175 444 72
 
 
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+31 6 175 444 72
 

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