[members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse

Me too please!!!!!!



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Same here.

Thanks.



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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GET ME OFF THIS RECIPIENTS LIST.



I DIDN’T ASK FOR IT, I HAVE WORK TO DO AND DON’T NEED THIS DISTRACTION











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I agree entirely.



Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny.



On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte <
catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk> wrote:

If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), that would be
great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be gleaned from
PeeringDB if one has an account there.



My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am interested
in a list of brand new contacts for C level management from various
industries. Reported them all as spam, but they never stop.



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Comment added by : Tim Armstrong

Comment Content:

And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something about all the
freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight auto-replies!





On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>
wrote:

Hi all,



Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again, RIPE DB abuse is a
real problem.

Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via an e-mail address
we only use for the contact details in our RIPE DB entries.



We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks, people offering to
sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering, etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed
pitches for services none of us want to waste time reading about. If we
want such products, we all know how find them, and yet the e-mails don't
stop coming.



I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the community, but if it
doesn't stop, I don't see how I have a choice. They need to learn that
database abuse leads to boycott.

The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and reporting issues &
abuse; not a sales team's list of "potential leads".



I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there really nothing
structural we can do about this?

At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the public DB, instead
having public complaint submitted via a webform on the NCC website,
requiring the uninitiated to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact,
not a sales opportunity.





Thanks,

Tim.



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