[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

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On 26 Sep 2016 11:32 p.m., "Radu-Adrian Feurdean" <
ripe-ncc at radu-adrian.feurdean.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016, at 19:35, Brandon Butterworth wrote:
> > A lot of land is owned by people who got it very cheap long ago. Try
> > taking it off them (Ok RIPE region covers countries where you in
>
> In most countries you pay taxes for the land you have. The more you
> have, the more takes you pay.
> Someone having 100m2 of land does not pay the same as one that has
> 100000m2 of land.
RIPE NCC is not a government it is an association.
You still pay tax to your government for property, which technically means
legacy resource holders should declare it in their taxes (but that is aside
from RIPE NCC which has no right to those resources).
>
> > You can sell yours at the same price to others if you didn't need it
> > This is why the scammers are creating lots of new LIRs. They think
> > it's fair that it's so cheap to get from RIPE vs market price and
> > will love it when you make it even cheaper for them
>
> What entitles you to call "scammer" someone that chooses to pay less
> lots of money "one shot" for something that others got for free ?

No one called you a scammer, they stated that people that use loopholes to
get around community set policy are.

>
> Oh, by the way, do "scammers" include those that get IP space by
> registering LIRs on different companies with same contact info and
> strikingly similar names ?
> (sorry, couldn't resist).
>

Yes it does. But that is a loophole we will struggle to close legally. But
the use of those resources by one company is difficult until the two year
transfer limitation has passed and would require some seriously sketchy BGP
work to use in the meantime.

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> Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN
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-Tim
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