[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model (fwd)

Hi,

Big business can really wait for policies to go again their way...
Imho, big business also expects to grow their business, so if they 
have any surplus, they won't tend to sell it, and risk having to buy the 
same resources later at a higher cost ;-)

"Fully migrate to IPv6" is something tricky, because noone is expecting to 
really stop using IPv4 anytime soon. Firstly, IPv6 usage needs to become 
dominant, and then IPv4 usage needs to become residual. When the latter 
happens, then "migration" might be an appropriate term :-) But while we 
(together) build a full IPv6 Internet, everyone should know IPv4 
operation is still essencial.

Regards,
Carlos Friaças


On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Teotónio Ricardo wrote:

> That?s why i think there shouldn?t exist any IPv4 Transfer market. This should be disallowed by RIPE.If you don?t allow
> selling IPv4 and charge more for them, LIRs with a big percentage of unused IPv4 Allocations will start to return them
> and only keep what they really need to maintain their services until they fully migrate to IPv6.
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>       No dia 23/09/2016, às 00:35, Simon Lockhart <s.lockhart at cablecomnetworking.co.uk> escreveu:
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> On Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 11:15:30PM +0100, Teotonio Ricardo wrote:
>       If they start being charged by allocation, they will think about returning
>       resources they aren't using and prioritize implementation of IPv6. In my
>       opinion, as a community member, LIRs should have the allocations they need,
>       not the allocations they want.
> 
> 
> No, the won't they'd get more money by selling them on the open market, than
> they would be reducing their RIPE fees. RIPE could never justifiably charge
> more than the IPs were worth on the open market, so no one will ever return
> them to RIPE.
> 
> Simon
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