[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model (fwd)

On 22/09/16 22:51, Carlos Friacas wrote:
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> Hi Martin, All,
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> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Martin List-Petersen wrote:
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>> On 22/09/16 20:58, Carlos Friacas wrote:
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>>>  Forgot to mention that this outreach should have included strong
>>>  messages so governments could be aware they should grab enough IPv4
>>>  addresses to satisfy their needs, in order to become truly independent
>>>  from their current (or future) IP service providers.
>>>
>>>  Some governments only understood they needed to "own" their share of
>>>  IPv4 space when it was too late, and only got small crumbs... :-(
>>>
>>>  In general, public administration procedures lead to periodic tenders,
>>>  and service providers (ISPs) are likely to change, and renumbering
>>>  processes become unavoidable if you don't "own" PI space, Legacy space
>>>  our your own PA space... ;-)
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>> More backwards thinking.
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> Nahhhhh, just a glimpse of local, daily, reality. :-))
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I know. But I'm a dreamer.


>> Those Governments should have pushed for a migration to IPv6 instead
>> of looking for small crumbs and acting as a forerunner.
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> At some extent, several governments over the years have funded
> sectorial-driven deployments :-)
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Not enough though.


>> Then use the crumbs for NATPT bridging them to the parts of the
>> Internet, that don't use v6 yet.
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> You mean, the large majority... ;-)
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Oh .. it has gotten a lot better in the last years.


>> It would also pushed the suppliers in the right direction then.
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> I would say that suppliers aren't being pushed enough, even today... ;-(
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Agreed. And it's the cheap arse end-user suppliers, that are the worse, 
because they're still in the way, even with the v6 roll-out has been 
done and automated .. all the way to the end-customer.

Kind regards,
Martin List-Petersen
Airwire Ltd.


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>> Kind regards,
>> Martin List-Petersen
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