[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

Daniel

Thanks, that's a good data point to have.

On 22/09/16 19:16, Daniel Pearson wrote:
> Nigel,
> 
> Thanks for the information. I've read a lot of the plan and have a
> couple of questions if you feel inclined to provide some more insight.
> 
> According to what I can see, the budget is split into several parts for
> training. A general 'overall' training budget and then a much smaller
> budget for IPv6 Support. Based on this document in particular, it's hard
> to say exactly how much of the larger training budget is spent
> specifically on IPv6, but it does show that the dedicated "IPv6 Support"
> budget is quite small, roughly 171,000 EUR.


> It seems primarily tied to MENOG sponsored IPv6 Roadshows. The rest
> seems split into the ENOG region, mostly with past efforts being to
> cross train folks with the idea that they will help present more road
> shows.

The MENOG and ENOG regions are where we concentrate a lot of the effort
partly because we get a lot of support from governmental organisations
there and also because they are, mainly, the regions which have less
penetration of IPv6. We've been doing IPv6 training in Western Europe
for a long time but we've found that the issue there isn't so much a
training one but an unwillingness to invest resources in pushing IPv6.
In a sense, the rising price of IPv4 is helping because it is at last
becoming apparent to those holding the budgets that hanging onto IPv4
has a cost, and it's one that is rising as time goes by.

> The final split in the budget is the online resources for IPv6.
> 
> Can you say how much of the training budget applies to IPv6 in general?

Offhand, I don't know but I can get the information.
> 
> Any plans to expand the IPv6 roadshows outside of ENOG and MENOG?

If that's what the members want then we'll do it.

> My personal opinion is the budget of 171,000 EUR for IPv6 Support, for
> the size of RIPE, is quite small. I would be interested to see that
> increased quite a bit to allow for more online resources, training,
> webinars and potentially even access to professionals that, while not
> providing support per say, could help guide folks unfamiliar with some
> of the IPv6 pitfalls in the right direction.

Again, thanks for your input. We can certainly look at adding more Ipv6
training to the activity plan.

All the best

Nigel

> Daniel~
> 
> On 09/22/2016 12:47 PM, Nigel Titley wrote:
>> Daniel (and others)
>>
>> On 22/09/16 18:32, Daniel Pearson wrote:
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I would say you get a gold star for recommending something feasible and
>>> realistic. RIPE already had a budget excess of over 5 Mil EUR last year.
>>> I would not be opposed if RIPE was tasked with creating a department to
>>> help with IPv6 education through programs like that.
>> Could I respectfully suggest that you take a look at the RIPE NCC
>> activity plan which tells you exactly on what and how much the RIPE NCC
>> is planning to spend next year. It already spends a lot on outreach and
>> it continues to spend a lot on IPv6 education. It's been doing this for
>> many, many years. Start by looking at last year's plan, this year's will
>> be out very soon.
>>
>> Have a look and comment on it.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Nigel
>> Chairman RIPE NCC Board
>>
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