[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

> I do find it entertaining that the legacy resource holders that probably have WAY WAY more space than they need and refuse to return their surplus for the good of the internet have objections.

> I feel this is because their bosses would then start asking if the need it all. They'd then be pressured financially to return their 'cushions'. It boils down to selfishness and not working towards the common good of the internet. Just because you got it when we were careless as an industry doesn't mean you should hoard it now.

> We should bill legacy holders per /24 and they can then pay for the unused space or return it. The maintenance fees can then go to reducing costs to LIRs with limited resources who are truly optimising their resources so they can afford to buy more on the transfer market. Or they could do the decent thing and rationalise their requirements and return unused space.

> What does newham council need 65000 odd public ips for? What does a uni need a /16 for? I know one uni I visited some friend at that used to give EVERY DEVICE a public IP. That's unacceptable in the current situation.

> I even know a trust that has a /20 they use in azure over a VPN that they are using 5-10% of and they frankly said they were keeping it because it was a cheap annual fee. If it was expensive or per IP they would have only kept a /23 and returned the rest.

> Maybe an amnesty for legacy holders where if they return 50% of their space or more they can stay on the current charging scheme but if they continue to hoard they are penalised?

Wow. Just wow.

Legacy space is out of scope for RIPE policy for charging and reclaim.

All sorts of organisations have need for addresses that may not be obvious from the outside, but that does not make them selfish.
(This applies to PA space too)

None of this would make any substantial difference to the exhaustion situation anyway.

It would be nice if a little more research was apparent in some of the items in this thread.

BTW, How advanced is your IPv6 deployment compared to your deckchair rearrangement project?

Ian

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