[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

On Mon Sep 19, 2016 at 05:05:21PM +0200, Tom Lehtinen wrote:
> RIPE NCC is currently the only RIR that is not charging differentiated 
> fees depending on LIR size.

It is the future.

> We all know that IPv4 addresses are shared resources and that we are 
> running out of available resources.

IPv4 is game over, there is no point trying to engineer an optimal
seating plan for the deck chairs

> One way of safeguarding the number resources is to make sure that they 
> are used efficiently. One way of making sure that the resources are used 
> efficiently is to associate a cost with holding the resource.

It'd have to be a large cost to make it worth giving up space
one might need later and end up having to buy back.

An ipv4 address is around EU10 so at EU1 per year I'd hold
on to it for another 10 years in case I need it, if I didn't
I could sell it any time and break even/make a profit

> For a new LIR, the annual fee is €1400 and that comes with a /22. 
> Substracting the credit that was given to the LIRs in the previous 
> years, we end up at a cost of roughly €1000/year for a LIR. This 
> translates to approximately €1/IP or €250 per /24 per year.

At EU250 per /24 how much does that add up to for all RIPE space? What
do you expect a not for profit like RIPE to do with all that income
when it's already handing back excess income? With no use for the money
other than handing it back there is no point charging it.

brandon