[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

Hello,

I think there are considerable costs with resource transfers. And there both small and large LIRs involved in the process.

Regards, 
Radu Gheorghiu 
XT Global Networks LTD.





  Original Message  
From: Gert Doering
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 15:07
To: Bastien Schils
Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

Hi,

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 08:48:59AM +0200, Bastien Schils wrote:
> It clearly states "providing global Internet resources and related 
> services" and not "maintaining a DB".
> 
> The more you use resources, the more you cost to maintain. That seems fair.

But that's not actually true. A LIR that just humms along, never sending
any request for resources, never opening a ticket will cause nearly no
cost - while a LIR that sends in a question every 5 days will cause 
quite a bit of cost. Independent of the number of resources they have.

Back in the day, a "large LIR" would inevitably send in more requests than
a "small LIR" - but since nobody can get extra resources after their last
/22, this is no longer true.

So, if *cost* is the concern, "startup LIRs that request their first /22"
are actually the ones that need most (human) resources, not "old LIRs that
have all they will ever get, and never ask for more". Looking at the
training department, who do you think will need more training? Old and
experienced LIRs, or startups?

Database costs, housing, electricity are mostly the same, no matter how 
many resources a LIR has.

[..]
> Let's take it from another perspective:
> If a LIR has 100 more IPs than another, wouldn't it be expected to think 
> that this LIR is 100 times more likely to need actions from the RIPE?
> 
> Well, in my opinion: Yes.

You need to recalibrate your opinions :-)

Gert Doering
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