[members-discuss] Spam from Cyprian Nica / IP Broker Limited (Re: Inquiry regarding availability for subnet x.x.x.0 - y.y.y.255

Hi Nick,

First of all, I have not used the ripe database contact info to send
marketing, advertising or anything to promote a service or product.

I apologize to anyone that was disturbed by my e-mail. I have tried not to
send any duplicates and limited as much as possible any discomfort. I'm not
doing this on a regular basis and probably you've never got an e-mail from
me before.

There are 43 million IP addresses which are allocated in RIPE region and
are not announced in the global BGP table. Of course there are some which
are not announced on purpose and to those I apologize again. But there are
many IP addresses which are not in use and the only way to get in touch
with the users is by contacting them using obviously publicly available
contact information.

I have e-mailed contacts for specific subnets that were checked to be not
advertised. How else should we get the IPs to the market ? There's no tool
provided by RIPE or any other solution to push this huge amount to the
market. Maybe some are concerned that bringing up the unused space will
lower the prices. Well, I am not supporting those who sit on huge amount of
IPs and seek prices in the 10+ EUR range. I really hope IPv6 will move
quicker and in a couple of years no IPv4 will have value so while there is
still some demand, we're doing our best to find the supply, to dig it up to
the surface.

So, once again at this moment there are over 43 million IPs in the RIPE
region only that are not advertised in the BGP table. The total amount of
IPs transferred over the past 4 years in the RIPE region is ~27 million.

I apologize if my method was too extreme and have upset some people but I
promise not to bother you again. Most likely there are people who just sit
on the resources and don't care about other's needs. We can't seem to be
able to lift their butts off them.

Have a nice week,
Ciprian



On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick at netability.ie> wrote:

> I've received several copies of the template email below about several
> different address ranges, all sent to email addresses culled from the
> RIPE Database.  They all appear to originate from Cyprian Nica / IP
> Broker Ltd.
>
> In order to be listed as an IP broker on the RIPE web site, it is
> necessary to sign the "Recognised IPv4 Transfer Broker Agreement".  This
> includes the following text:
>
> > The Broker shall adhere to the relevant RIPE Policies and RIPE NCC
> > procedural documents, [...]
>
> The RIPE Database T&Cs include the following text:
>
> > Users may not use the RIPE Database or the data contained therein for
> > advertising, direct marketing, marketing research or similar purposes.
>
> Could the RIPE NCC kindly confirm whether or not spamming contact email
> address gleaned from the RIPE DB is a violation of the Recognised IPv4
> Transfer Broker Agreement?
>
> If this isn't a violation, could the Board consider specifically adding
> an anti-spamming term into the IP Broker T&Cs listing?
>
> Nick
>
> Ciprian Nica wrote:
> > Dear Sirs,
> >
> > My name is Ciprian Nica and I'm the CEO of IP Broker Ltd, one of the
> > first IPv4 Address brokers in the RIPE region. I am contacting you
> > regarding the block of 256 IPv4 addresses (from x.x.x.0  to
> > 'y.y.y.255') which according to our data seems to be not in use as
> > they are not announced in the global BGP table.
> >
> > If you no longer need these IP addresses then it is a good moment to
> > sell them. The global IPv6 deployment rate is around 15% while in USA
> > is around 30% so in a couple of years IPv4 might become worthless
> > again.
> >
> > Of course that besides the subnet mentioned above there might be some
> > other blocks that you might not need. Please let us know all the
> > blocks of IP addresses that you no longer need and we will do our
> > best to sell them in a fast and secure way.
>
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Ciprian Nica
> > CEO
> > IP Broker Limited
> > t: +44 20 339 339 91
> >
>
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