[members-discuss] Re

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016, at 00:57, Sander Steffann wrote:

> Google shows that 12.5% of all users world-wide not only have devices
> that support IPv6 but also an ISP that provides them with IPv6. Take a

No. At least not exactly.
That should read : 12.5% of the devices *accessing* *Google* support
IPv6 and have access to IPv6 internet, which may be provided by their
ISP or via some tunnelbroker.

> networks in the world (Comcast, AT&T, KDDI, Verizon Wireless, Time Warner
> Cable, SoftBank, Deutsche Telecom, Sky, T-Mobile USA etc etc etc) are
> providing IPv6 to their users.

I would like to see in detail how things happen to business users.
Residential is quite easy. Business users is another story.

> > Why is it still allowed to produce IPv4 equipment, like IP cameras?
> 
> Because supporting multiple network protocols in parallel is to
> everyone's benefit. And yes: all my IP cameras support IPv6 as well.

He probably meant "IPv4-only".

> Everybody who invests in IPv4-only equipment these days is not making a
> very smart buying decision. There are no laws against stupidity...

Because when you buy an IP camera you can be 100% sure that it will
support IPv6 before purchase ?
Just did the exercice of looking for an IP camera and took the 5 first
results (of which 2 from a well-known manufaturer that is supposed to
support IPv6 at least in the home router products). 3 of those had no
mention of IPv6 (no explicit mention of IPv4 either). The 2 others (from
the known manufacturer) had explicit mention of IPv4 and no mention of
IPv6.
Should we talk about "smart" TVs ?
Should we talk of game consoles (especially PS consoles, known to also
pose problems with CGN) ?

Yes, IPv6 works, but it's not in wide use. The internet is not just only
Google, Facebook and Netflix .... That's how things start being
complicated.