[members-discuss] Re

 >Your "incentive plan" does nothing that isn't already taking place.

Rubbish, I got multiple /22's and nobody gave me any incentive to use IPv6.


 >New ISPs It would only mean that new ISPs would have working IPv6
 >to their website, name servers and a least one PC (which likely is in
 >the lab or the ISP office network). It does nothing to ensure they
 >actually deploy IPv6  to end customers.

That's not correct, you can incentivize old customers as well by 
lowering their prices. If ISP's use IPv6 then they are more likely to 
offer it to their customers.


 >You are – on the other hand – prolonging their startup time since
 >they can't get anywhere with their IPv4 CGN solution before they
 >have working IPv6.

So what? IPv4 will run out, are you helping them by making it easy? I'm 
pro IPv6 but honestly you can't give them away right now.

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On 22/07/2016 10:30, Lasse Bliksted Leegaard Jensen wrote:
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> > a) Only allow ISP's to order a /22 from from an IPv6 address.
> > b) Show their website works on IPv6
> > c) Show that their name servers use IPv6.
>
> Your "incentive plan" does nothing that isn't already taking place.
>
> New ISPs It would only mean that new ISPs would have working IPv6 to 
> their website, name servers and a least one PC (which likely is in the 
> lab or the ISP office network). It does nothing to ensure they 
> actually deploy IPv6  to end customers.
>
> You are – on the other hand – prolonging their startup time since they 
> can't get anywhere with their IPv4 CGN solution before they have 
> working IPv6.
>
> It also does nothing towards moving existing ISPs with "enough" IPv4 
> space towards providing IPv6 to the masses.
>
> IPv4 is legacy. If you only provide IPv4 you offering is broken.
>
> Stop complaining and start deploying.
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