[members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account

Hi,

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:46:26PM +0300, Host.AG wrote:
> The money can be then used to force the adoption of ipv6.

How so?  What can the RIPE NCC do, even with heaps of money, that they
are not doing today?

- free IPv6 training?  (done today)
- outreach activity to tell people about IPv6?  (done today)
- encourage IPv6 when registering IPv4 blocks?  (done today)

if ISPs do not *want* to deploy IPv6, there is nothing the RIPE NCC can
do - even if you add some requirements ("you must have an IPv6 block,
it must be advertised, and your mail server must do IPv6!") people will
fulfill that to the letter - and stop there.

The pressure needs to come from the community and from the peers - talk 
to the content providers that have no IPv6 today.  If you're a content
provider with IPv6, talk to the access providers that have no IPv6 today.

If enough of you do that, possibly applying some mild pressure ("we're 
slowing down our IPv4 access because our CGN is overloaded, so if you 
want your content delivered over full speed, you need to use IPv6"),
things will move.

Asking the RIPE NCC to solve the problem for you is what we tried for
the last 15 years, and while it got some results, this is not what needs
to happen next.

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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