[members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account

I'll second that. There is no reason to have the same endless discussion
once again.

It would be nice if we could reclaim unused IPv4 space, but it is not
possible since it has turned into a commodity and no companies are willing
to give it up voluntarily. Simply put, it's not going to happen. So, forget
about the past and focus on the future instead.

I think the current pricing of another LIR account is fine - by no means it
should be lower, since that would just speed up the exhaustion of IPv4
while allowing Russian hustlers & hoarders to make a quick profit.

Regards,

Yoel Caspersen
CEO
Kviknet.dk ApS

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Dominik Nowacki <dominik at clouvider.co.uk>
wrote:

> Honestly, this discussion keeps coming back on and on and on and on and on
> and on and on and on.
>
> Please read the list archive. There was a very very very _very_ lengthy
> discussion around this subject.
>
> Just read from A to Z before you start exactly the same discussion 3
> months later. Nothing changed that justifies it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> With Kind Regards,
> Dominik Nowacki
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> On 21 Jul 2016, at 18:06, David Benwell <dave at it-communicationsltd.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Let’s look at why ripe are limiting LR’s to a final /22
>
>
>
> 1.       To ensure new members get a fair share of resources from the
> last /8 ?
>
>
>
> If the above is correct then the ability to register additional LR’s for
> the sole reason to get additional /22 could be seen to abuse the very
> reason why ripe put the limit in the first place.
>
>
>
> This does not protect resources but makes ripe a lot more money.
>
>
>
> Why have a rule in place then allow loop holes. You might had not bothered
> limiting LR’s to a /22 just charge XXX for an additional /22 if that is the
> true reason why ripe came out with the rule.
>
>
>
> *From:* members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net
> <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Nguyen
> *Sent:* 21 July 2016 17:59
> *To:* Gert Doering <gert at space.net>
> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account
>
>
>
> If you can't afford the measly few thousand euros for another LIR, perhaps
> you shouldn't be an LIR in the first place. I would keep prices as they are.
>
>
>
> Jonny
>
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Ping IP wrote:
> > I'm not talking about the sign-up fee for a new LIR member, but about
> > the sign-up fee for an additional LIR account.
>
> I think the sign-up fee being equal for all sorts of LIR accounts is
> a very good thing, and the total amount is reasonable.
>
> So, NCC, please leave things as they are.
>
> Gert Doering
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