[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC Members and Multiple LIR Accounts - Please Discuss

This is true, but not at all, because many of this unused pools are 
provided when the cost was 0€ (before the IP exaustion). Then, you have 
got socialist IPs.
You want convert you socialism IPs in capitalism IPs? Ok, pay for it.
What is now the cost of a /24? 1500€? Then, pay it and you can remain 
this  unused IPs in your LIR for unlimited time.
You don't want to pay? Sorry, but I need this IPs now to continue making 
Internet biggest.
Internet is a open system/service, more socialist than capitalist.



On 11/02/2016 15:34, Radu Brebu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is a socialist way of thinking, you are free (ipotetic speaking) 
> to open another lir and satisfy your VPS needs no? some companies 
> prefer to plan their business long term. In my opinion it's not ok to 
> prioritize resources keeping in mind only the need. We are leaving and 
> doing business in a capitalist environment, buying resources it is 
> what is all about.
>
> On 02/11/16 16:19, José Manuel Giner wrote:
>> I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and 
>> other LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote:
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>>  I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before
>>>  2012, to the NCC pool.
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  Kind regards,
>>>  Aleksey Bulgakov
>>>  FastTelecom, CEO
>>>  7 926 6908729
>>>
>>> 14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley :
>>>
>>>     Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>>     The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to
>>>     discuss
>>>     the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts.
>>>
>>>     There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in 
>>> November
>>>     2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR 
>>> accounts,
>>>     each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run 
>>> against
>>>     the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board
>>>     decided to
>>>     temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open 
>>> additional
>>>     LIR accounts.
>>>
>>>     The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8
>>>     policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has
>>>     allocated
>>>     more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the
>>>     pool.
>>>
>>>     ACTION REQUIRED:
>>>     The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and 
>>> discuss
>>>     the following points:
>>>
>>>     1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a
>>>     problem
>>>     that must be prevented?
>>>
>>>     2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what 
>>> action
>>>     should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention?
>>>
>>>     Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this
>>>     article on
>>>     RIPE Labs:
>>> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc 
>>>
>>>
>>>     The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members 
>>> Discuss
>>>     mailing list .
>>>
>>>     The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the 
>>> next
>>>     Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the 
>>> outcome of
>>>     that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to
>>>     vote on
>>>     at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016.
>>>
>>>     Best regards,
>>>
>>>     Nigel Titley
>>>     RIPE NCC Executive Board
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the 
>>> general page:
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>>>
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>>
>>
>


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