[members-discuss] [address-policy-wg] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2016 Discussion

On 25/01/2015 19:56, Gert Doering wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 08:53:11AM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote:
>> One way I believe this could be accomplished is that if you already
>> pay the NCC membership fee or a PI fee, then you automatically get a
>> reasonable quota of gratis ASNs. (Not automatic assignment of those
>> ASNs, but that you won't get a separate charge until you have requested
>> enough ASNs to exceed your quota.)
> 
> This would work for me.
> 
> Agreeing with Tore that this is not supposed to bring in additional
> revenue, and also not supposed to punish/hurt LIRs that make good use
> of their ASNs - but to be an incentive to return (or trade away) 
> unused ASNs to make them used again, and to prevent useless hoarding
> which would burn NCC resources.

I see why this looks attractive, but I don't think it's a good idea.

Today's figures from delegated-ripencc-latest and the ripedb show:

	- 26768 ASNs assigned
	- 7165 LIRs with ASNs
	- 6245 with a single ASN assigned
	- 649 with 2 ASNs

Looking at these numbers, even if a quota figure were set as low as 2 ASNs
per LIR, that's still over 25% of all ASNs for which there is no reason to
return if they're unused.  This is not going to encourage efficient garbage
collection.

As a separate issue, free asn quotas for LIRs are not really within the
spirit of RIPE community policy for PI resource assignment.

Nick