[members-discuss] [address-policy-wg] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2016 Discussion
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Nick Hilliard
nick at netability.ie
Sun Jan 25 23:08:27 CET 2015
On 25/01/2015 19:56, Gert Doering wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 08:53:11AM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote: >> One way I believe this could be accomplished is that if you already >> pay the NCC membership fee or a PI fee, then you automatically get a >> reasonable quota of gratis ASNs. (Not automatic assignment of those >> ASNs, but that you won't get a separate charge until you have requested >> enough ASNs to exceed your quota.) > > This would work for me. > > Agreeing with Tore that this is not supposed to bring in additional > revenue, and also not supposed to punish/hurt LIRs that make good use > of their ASNs - but to be an incentive to return (or trade away) > unused ASNs to make them used again, and to prevent useless hoarding > which would burn NCC resources. I see why this looks attractive, but I don't think it's a good idea. Today's figures from delegated-ripencc-latest and the ripedb show: - 26768 ASNs assigned - 7165 LIRs with ASNs - 6245 with a single ASN assigned - 649 with 2 ASNs Looking at these numbers, even if a quota figure were set as low as 2 ASNs per LIR, that's still over 25% of all ASNs for which there is no reason to return if they're unused. This is not going to encourage efficient garbage collection. As a separate issue, free asn quotas for LIRs are not really within the spirit of RIPE community policy for PI resource assignment. Nick
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