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Sat Aug 2 09:02:12 CEST 2014
Hi all, Glad to know about that but I think that wasnt the exactly question. I think the quetion was: Is RIPE acceping legal papers for Crimea from Russia, from Ukraine or from both countries? If im wrong, please feel free to correct me! -Daniel El 2014-08-01 14:26, Athina Fragkouli escribió: > Dear all, > > The RIPE NCC follows the developments regarding sanctions adopted by > the > European Union (EU) and reviews whether these sanctions restrict us > from > providing services to network operators in certain regions or from > having a contractual relationship with them. > > Additionally, the RIPE NCC communicates with the Dutch authorities in > order to clarify the details of the imposed sanctions and our > obligations. > > So far, the EU sanctions adopted for the Crimea region (including the > newest sanctions imposed by the EU by adopting the Council Regulation > (EU) No 825/2014 of 30 July 2014) do not restrict us from doing any of > the above. > > http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.01.0002.01.ENG > > In response to the concerns raised about this new Regulation, we have > the following remarks: > > According to Article 2c of the Regulation: > 1. It shall be prohibited to sell, supply, transfer, export, directly > or > indirectly, key equipment and technology as listed in _Annex_III_ to > any > natural or legal person, entity or body in Crimea or Sevastopol or for > use in Crimea or Sevastopol. > 2. _Annex_III_ shall include key equipment and technology related to > the > creation, acquisition or development of infrastructure in the > following > sectors: > ... > (b) telecommunications; > ... > 3. It shall be prohibited to: > (a) provide, directly or indirectly, technical assistance or brokering > services related to the key equipment and technology listed in > _Annex_III_, or related to the provision, manufacture, maintenance and > use of items listed in _Annex_III_ to any natural or legal person, > entity or body in Crimea or Sevastopol or for use in Crimea or > Sevastopol; > ... > > > So any prohibition is related to key equipment and technology as > listed > in Annex III. > > Annex III does not include anything related to the services we > provide, > including the registration of Internet number resources. > > We will continue to follow the development of any sanctions that > affect > the provisioning of services in our region. > > Kind regards, > > Athina Fragkouli > Legal Counsel > RIPE NCC > > > > On 31/07/14 14:38, Sander Steffann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just got a question about how I meant this sentence: >> >>> As a networking person 'related to the provision [...] and use of >>> items listed' does seem to include allocating number resources. >> >> Just so that people don't misunderstand me: what I meant here is that >> the terminology used in this legal document has some specific meaning >> in the networking world. The meaning in a legal sense is probably >> completely different from what I as a networking engineer would read. >> Which is why I think we need to let a legal specialist comment on >> this. IANAL and my opinion doesn't mean anything here :) >> >> Sorry for the confusion! >> >> Cheers, >> Sander >> >> >> ---- >> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >> general page: >> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ >> >> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >> From here, you can add or remove addresses. >> > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". > From here, you can add or remove addresses.
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