[members-discuss] НА: Marketing? Really?

Hi

Have no problem with them as long as next year they keep budget at 20m range.

consider the current member fees, I think we as business have no
problem with Ripe NCC doing any outreach activities at certain amount
and some "good for internet" thing at few hundreds euro member fees
per year. after all, we are running a business and such cost as
business is too little to be even calculated.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Vladislav Potapov <poty at iiat.ru> wrote:
> Me too. And many "outgoing" activities like RIPE meetings an so... too.
> I'm fully satisfied with the latest finance documents. At least they have
> the information I asked.
>
> Vladislav Potapov
> ru.iiat
> ________________________________
> От: Jānis Jaunošāns
> Отправлено: ‎22.‎10.‎2013 21:46
> Кому: members-discuss at ripe.net
> Тема: Re: [members-discuss] Marketing? Really?
>
> I like atlas and labs :(
>
> On 10/22/13 7:49 PM, Daniel Stolpe wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Sander Steffann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just noticed this on the NCC website:
>>>
>>> http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/jobs/current-openings/marketing-and-pr-manager
>>>
>>>>  From that page: " This is a high profile role within the organisation
>>>> [...] to develop a high-level marketing, branding and PR strategy for all
>>>> services."
>>> and "General Duties: [...] Write powerful and engaging promotional
>>> content for the organisation?s products and services [...]"
>>>
>>> It really surprises me that the NCC, being a membership organisation,
>>> needs someone for marketing its products and services...
>>>
>>> I hope I am just misunderstanding this :-)
>> Hi Sander,
>>
>> Well, you know, it doesn't surprise me that much, considering the
>> employees talking about the NCC as a company while it in many ways is
>> everything but a company. I think it has many similarities with a
>> government entity. People do a lot of divese things and nobody is
>> responsible for the financies. (Axel just goes to Nigel and says "I need
>> 20 millinon euros next year, and then the board suggest a membership fee
>> that will cover the expenses and we are done).
>>
>> According to the activity plan, about 30ish people work with the core
>> business: registry services. And about 100 do other stuff. Of course there
>> has to be some infrastructure around but I still don't get what all of
>> them are doing.
>>
>> I would be very happy to see a document stating what the NCC are supposed
>> to do. And not do.
>>
>> Atlas, and labs and "no name" services are things I could do without. For
>> example
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
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