[members-discuss] IPv4 - Charging Won't Help You

Hi,

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:53:19PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
> 1) large Italian ISP have answered that the will not implement IPv6, "it 
> costs too much and by the way we still need IPv4 for a looong time so no 
> way that we will implement it". They asked to implement ISP NAT which is 
> crazy to me, but they say they prefer it.

I recommend that to all my competitors.  It's their business decision,
or maybe, out-of-business decision.  We'll see...

> 2) not having IPv6 content from large content provider (in some cases 
> the same large ISP/Telco) means that you need IPv4, natively

An eyeball ISP will need to provide access to IPv4 service today, this
nobody doubts.  But this can be done with MAP or DS-Lite today, requiring
much less IPv4 address space than for an IPv4-only ISP.

Furthermore, the largest content in the world (Google, Youtube, Facebook,
Akamai) is already IPv6 capable.

> 3) in my opinion, the large Telco have no interest to start deploying 
> IPv6 (i.e. dual stack). For their market it's better to avoid IPv6 and 
> sell IPv4, they have a LARGE amount.

Look again.  Many of the largest Telcos in the world are already deploying
IPv6 today.  Like, Deutsche Telekom.

[..]
> 6) legally speaking, in Italy, 1 customer = 1 public IPv4. Therefore if 
> you do not have IPv4 you cannot do business, it's not a technical thing 
> it's a LEGAL thing.

Then maybe you should work on that part as well.  Regulations can be 
changed (if you find a working government).

But I think it's great of some of the competition disappears from the
market.  More margin for the rest.

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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