[members-discuss] Interesting IP count

Hi

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 12:47:26AM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
>> Members-discuss@, I urge you to come forward with arguments why IPv6 is so desperately
>> needed and invalidate what Lu Heng brought to the list. I would love to compile all
>> reasoning into a document to be used in IPv6 workshops.
>
> "end to end connectivity".
>
> If your ISP NATs you, you can't connect back to your home network by
> any means, and most of the peer2peer-applications will be broken.
>
You are right about connect back to home thing(but again, how many
people really connect back to home, or even know that possibility
exists, and what China telecom does with these business people(they
are business people mostly), they charge extra for static IP address
in which at cost of over 2000Euro/IP/year(that's why they are the most
profitable ISP in the world) ), for p2p, there is already large amount
of software has solved the problem,and just do not underestimate the
people's technical ability about sharing.

The biggest IPv6 traffic I have ever seen is in one of Chinese
university in Beijing, the reason behind that is--school charge
student for their IPv4 traffic but not IPv6 traffic, so they use IPv6
to download:)(about 5G/second)

so example like that will tech us, end of the day, the cost is the
most important thing, not many people really care about how long the
future goes as long as it is not broken now, as long as people has no
economical intensive to go for IPv6, then won't do that. But once the
end user has the presure of money for going IPv6,then they will, but
the  core point I am raising here is: since end customer already
paying somewhere around 10-100USD/IP/year, at current low IPv4 price,
I didn't see much of economic intensive exits at the end user
side(only in ISP side, but again, we have free lunch for past 20
years, does it really matter a lot for that free lunch raise it's
price a bit in which still be a relative cheap price).

So, let me summary my point, I believe current IPv4 price does not
offer enough intensive for most of end user to go IPv6.Maybe we need
about 100USD/IP to drive IPv6 into a everyday world.

Just my 2 cents thought:)

--
Kind regards.
Lu

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