[members-discuss] Charging scheme discussion

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 07:18:23PM +0100, Thomas Mangin wrote:
>Thinking aloud, should RIPE propose several options every year instead
>of one. This would surely reduce the debate as everyone would have a
>chance to vote for their preferred pricing model.  ( It may be a can of
>worm, It may not be possible - I am not familiar with RIPE's governance

The original 2012 proposal wasn't so bad actually, it just had a few
ugly warts which is why I and a lot of others rejected it.

So as not to be accused of just moaning and no solutions, how is this 
for a proposal?

-Categories as before, possibly based on the Nov 2011 proposal. 
-sane category boundaries so that end-users and new LIRs will usually
fall into the smallest category.

-*No* double charging of Independent Resources. Either set a charge per
or use them for category calgulation, not both. Personally, I fall on
the side of a charge per resource as using PI/ASN for category
calculation is impossible to do fairly.

-No "aging" of resources for category calculation. I've never understood
what makes a prefix allocated in 1999 different from one allocated in
2009 anyway. For IPv6 that would be farcical anyway.

-The "setup fee" has to go or be drastically reduced. Nobody can tell
me it is EUR 2k worth of work to set up a new customer. If it actually
*is*, now is a good time to change that ineffective practice.
Drop the free meeting tickets, if that makes a difference. Nobody uses
them. Of the 10 tickets that the 5 LIRs that I do work for were entitled
to, not one was used.

-I'd argue that this should only include (and fund!) registry, training,
K-root and rDNS service. Members who want RPKI, USB sticks or any other 
service can fund those via separate service fees.


rgds,
Sascha Luck







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