[members-discuss] [Ticket#2012071701001001] Proposal for New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

Dear All

> Dear Tomas,
>
>  > I do not understand why you want to tax IP address consumption
> through charging scheme. It should be two different things.
>
> They depend on each other. If we change charging scheme and payment will
> depend from count of IPs  then RIPE can't be non profit organisation.
>
> On the other hand, I can't understund why RIPE charges per PI/AS right
> now? In my opinion this is risky way for non profit organisation too.
>

I never said that we should "tax" IPs only that it is a parameter to LIR 
size, together with other parameters.

The point is that, I am still wondering why big LIR are paying such a 
low amount of money (in percentage compared to revenues)

Regards

> --
> Alexey Ivanov
> LeaderTelecom Ltd.
>
> 17.07.2012 12:38 - Tomas Hlavacek написал(а):
> Hello!
> Well RIPE NCC is managing IP address pool because community submits to
> the authority RIPE NCC has. And the authority has been voluntarily
> transferred to the NCC by the community itself and it is executed by the
> community in fact. But if there is a considerable amount of people that
> disagree with actions taken by RIPE NCC or RIPE as whole what prevents
> them to pick a random resource and announce it to DFZ?
> This is the point where all the analogies with water or air fails. Only
> governments are crazy enough and have enough power to tax air for
> breathing and rain water. They can eventually tax IP addresses as well.
> But RIPE NCC can not do that.
> I do not understand why you want to tax IP address consumption through
> charging scheme. It should be two different things.
> Tomas
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:45 PM, LIR <lir at lanto.it
> <mailto:lir at lanto.it>> wrote:
> RIPE is managing a public resource, and usage should be fair and
> available to all.
>
> Who is using a lot of a resources which are rare and exausted should pay
> accordingly, as he/she is using a public resource and others are denied
> this usage because of him. So the community should have a gain from this
> concession.
>
> So, very simply, IPs are like water, air: a PUBLIC resource!!!!!
> --
> Tomáš Hlaváček
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