[members-discuss] [Ticket#2012071701001001] Proposal for New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model
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Paolo Di Francesco
paolo.difrancesco at level7.it
Tue Jul 17 16:07:01 CEST 2012
Dear All > Dear Tomas, > > > I do not understand why you want to tax IP address consumption > through charging scheme. It should be two different things. > > They depend on each other. If we change charging scheme and payment will > depend from count of IPs then RIPE can't be non profit organisation. > > On the other hand, I can't understund why RIPE charges per PI/AS right > now? In my opinion this is risky way for non profit organisation too. > I never said that we should "tax" IPs only that it is a parameter to LIR size, together with other parameters. The point is that, I am still wondering why big LIR are paying such a low amount of money (in percentage compared to revenues) Regards > -- > Alexey Ivanov > LeaderTelecom Ltd. > > 17.07.2012 12:38 - Tomas Hlavacek написал(а): > Hello! > Well RIPE NCC is managing IP address pool because community submits to > the authority RIPE NCC has. And the authority has been voluntarily > transferred to the NCC by the community itself and it is executed by the > community in fact. But if there is a considerable amount of people that > disagree with actions taken by RIPE NCC or RIPE as whole what prevents > them to pick a random resource and announce it to DFZ? > This is the point where all the analogies with water or air fails. Only > governments are crazy enough and have enough power to tax air for > breathing and rain water. They can eventually tax IP addresses as well. > But RIPE NCC can not do that. > I do not understand why you want to tax IP address consumption through > charging scheme. It should be two different things. > Tomas > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:45 PM, LIR <lir at lanto.it > <mailto:lir at lanto.it>> wrote: > RIPE is managing a public resource, and usage should be fair and > available to all. > > Who is using a lot of a resources which are rare and exausted should pay > accordingly, as he/she is using a public resource and others are denied > this usage because of him. So the community should have a gain from this > concession. > > So, very simply, IPs are like water, air: a PUBLIC resource!!!!! > -- > Tomáš Hlaváček > ------------------------------------------------- > IGNUM s.r.o. | Vinohradská 190 | Praha 3 | 130 61 > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. > -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it
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