[members-discuss] RIPE DB NRTM access.

> That's a bit different from the initial point...
Original   point   still   stands  -  the fact that it's not a problem
anymore  to  download  200MB  over  200KB  doesn't  make  it  any less
wasteful.

> I do not know enough about irrd to comment on this (I just never  
> runned it here), the things we mirror here are MySQL backed and in  
> some way our sysadms convinced MySQL to accept that at some moment  
> some read-only tables get replaced on the fly with new snapshots and  
> that happens magically and atomically.
Operative keyword would be 'magically'. I prefer KISS over magic :)

> Maybe RIPE might put in some directory one file per day with the  
> "daily updates" and that directory can be rsync'd ?
I'm  not sure why we are still trying to re-invent wheel here. I would
really  like  to  hear  a  sane  reason behind non-profit organization
expecting  a  EUR  250  fee for access to, essentially, a whois server
with  public  information that should be mirrored as much as possible,
which  also  is already available for free, but in a form that is only
harder  to keep updated? I'm trying hard to imagine how running mirror
with   up   to   two   weeks  of  serialized  updates  would  be  more
cost-intensive compared to running FTP server, yet I can't figure this
out. I was so perplexed by this that it even made me start this thread
on a saturday! ;)

> My point was only about the data transfer, I understand that setting  
> up a "push" update requires a significant administrative/management  
> overhead, and it is reasonable to ask for a cost compensation; setting
> up a public rsync server requires no more effort than setting up a  
> public ftp site (maybe less...): the big dfference is that (as long as
> data is uncompressed and unencrypted) only the "delta" gets actually  
> transferred.
It's  already up and running, this point is moot. Another user doesn't
require  a  new  set  of data - same updates are being sent. It's also
running  on  free and open software. It's also not a push update. From
what  I  learned  in  short  time this saturday, it's just a glorified
whois  server that allows mirror operation. Besides, others managed to
somehow sink their astronomical costs with running such a contraption:
http://www.radb.net/resources/databases.php

Seriously,  maybe I'm missing something here. But what?

--Pawel.