[members-discuss] whois mntner

Dear Denis,

Thanks for your response. I've probably missed that point, so that if my 
object has no password, than I will be able to see the whole at least on 
webupdates.

Thanks for the replies, regards.

Kojedzinszky Richard
Euronet Magyarorszag Informatikai Zrt.

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Denis Walker wrote:

> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:04:22 +0100
> From: Denis Walker <denis at ripe.net>
> To: Richard Kojedzinszky <krichy at tvnetwork.hu>
> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] whois mntner
> 
> Dear Richard
>
> After the discussion on the DB WG mailing list it was agreed that all
> "auth:" attributes will be hidden from public view in a 'normal' query
> output. The only way now to see the full object is with Webupdates. For
> any MNTNER object that has an MD5 password, authentication must be
> supplied to see the full objects. This also applies if the MNTNER has
> both MD5 password and PGP/X509. If the MNTNER has only PGP/X509 and no
> passwords, you still need to use Webupdates to see the full object. But
> in this latter case, no authentication is needed to see the object.
>
> So in your case, if you just follow the steps outlined below you will
> see the full MNTNER object including the "auth:" attributes, without
> having to enter any authentication.
>
> btw...I think the Lynx browser still works from a text only console.
>
> Regards,
>
> Denis Walker
> Business Analyst
> RIPE NCC Database Group
>
>
> On 17/02/12:8 5:26 PM, Richard Kojedzinszky wrote:
>> Dear Denis,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply. As I am unix user, I have only text console, and
>> using a browser on that is very uncomfortable. Ok, that was a joke only,
>> but the question still stands: what if I dont have a password for my
>> mntner, as the link you've sent mentions that the webupdates will only
>> show the object after authentication.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kojedzinszky Richard
>> Euronet Magyarorszag Informatikai Zrt.
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Denis Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:20:48 +0100
>>> From: Denis Walker <denis at ripe.net>
>>> To: Richard Kojedzinszky <krichy at tvnetwork.hu>
>>> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
>>> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] whois mntner
>>>
>>> Dear Richard
>>>
>>> There is an easy way to do this with Webupdates. Starting with the
>>> "Modify or Delete an object" page on the url you mentioned,
>>> https://apps.db.ripe.net/webupdates/search.html, enter your MNTNER
>>> object name in the search box then select the "modify object in single
>>> text area" option. When you click on "Search" you will see the full
>>> object, including the "auth:" attributes, in a text area. You can copy
>>> and paste this data and use any update method you choose.
>>>
>>> Please note that this only has an impact on changes to the MNTNER object
>>> itself, as requested by the community through the RIPE Database Working
>>> Group (DB WG) to hide the MD5 hashes from public view. Changing any
>>> other object type remains as it was. The change was discussed in detail
>>> on the DB WG mailing list. If you have any suggestions on this
>>> behaviour, you may wish to discuss them on that list.
>>>
>>> Full details of how the new process works can be seen here:
>>> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/securing-md5-hashes-in-the-ripe-database
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Denis Walker
>>> Business Analyst
>>> RIPE NCC Database Group
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/02/12:8 4:19 PM, Richard Kojedzinszky wrote:
>>>> Dear members,
>>>>
>>>> Maybe a stupid question, but I am used to update objects via signed
>>>> emails. Now, a mntner object cannot be queried fully, I got a filtered
>>>> result always, even with the maintainer not containing md5 passwords.
>>>> So I
>>>> am missing the auth: fields.
>>>>
>>>> $ whois -T mntner -B -r MNT-RK1387-RIPE
>>>> % This is the RIPE Database query service.
>>>> % The objects are in RPSL format.
>>>> %
>>>> % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
>>>> % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf
>>>>
>>>> % Information related to 'MNT-RK1387-RIPE'
>>>>
>>>> mntner:         MNT-RK1387-RIPE
>>>> descr:          Maintainer of RK1387-RIPE
>>>> admin-c:        RK1387-RIPE
>>>> upd-to:         richardk at tvnetwork.hu
>>>> mnt-by:         MNT-RK1387-RIPE
>>>> referral-by:    MNT-RK1387-RIPE
>>>> changed:        richardk at tvnetwork.hu 20080417
>>>> changed:        krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814
>>>> changed:        krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814
>>>> source:         RIPE # Filtered
>>>>
>>>>> From https://apps.db.ripe.net/webupdates/search.html altough I can
>>>>> query
>>>> the full object:
>>>>
>>>> mntner:      MNT-RK1387-RIPE
>>>> descr:       Maintainer of RK1387-RIPE
>>>> admin-c:     RK1387-RIPE
>>>> upd-to:      richardk at tvnetwork.hu
>>>> auth:        PGPKEY-8F59B1B7
>>>> auth:        X509-2577
>>>> mnt-by:      MNT-RK1387-RIPE
>>>> referral-by: MNT-RK1387-RIPE
>>>> changed:     richardk at tvnetwork.hu 20080417
>>>> changed:     krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814
>>>> changed:     krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814
>>>> source:      RIPE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And as I am used to copy-paste the result, change what I like, and then
>>>> send it back, this does not work anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Kojedzinszky Richard
>>>> Euronet Magyarorszag Informatikai Zrt.
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