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Richard Kojedzinszky
krichy at tvnetwork.hu
Sat Feb 18 00:49:21 CET 2012
Dear Denis, Thanks for your response. I've probably missed that point, so that if my object has no password, than I will be able to see the whole at least on webupdates. Thanks for the replies, regards. Kojedzinszky Richard Euronet Magyarorszag Informatikai Zrt. On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Denis Walker wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:04:22 +0100 > From: Denis Walker <denis at ripe.net> > To: Richard Kojedzinszky <krichy at tvnetwork.hu> > Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] whois mntner > > Dear Richard > > After the discussion on the DB WG mailing list it was agreed that all > "auth:" attributes will be hidden from public view in a 'normal' query > output. The only way now to see the full object is with Webupdates. For > any MNTNER object that has an MD5 password, authentication must be > supplied to see the full objects. This also applies if the MNTNER has > both MD5 password and PGP/X509. If the MNTNER has only PGP/X509 and no > passwords, you still need to use Webupdates to see the full object. But > in this latter case, no authentication is needed to see the object. > > So in your case, if you just follow the steps outlined below you will > see the full MNTNER object including the "auth:" attributes, without > having to enter any authentication. > > btw...I think the Lynx browser still works from a text only console. > > Regards, > > Denis Walker > Business Analyst > RIPE NCC Database Group > > > On 17/02/12:8 5:26 PM, Richard Kojedzinszky wrote: >> Dear Denis, >> >> Thanks for your reply. As I am unix user, I have only text console, and >> using a browser on that is very uncomfortable. Ok, that was a joke only, >> but the question still stands: what if I dont have a password for my >> mntner, as the link you've sent mentions that the webupdates will only >> show the object after authentication. >> >> Regards, >> >> Kojedzinszky Richard >> Euronet Magyarorszag Informatikai Zrt. >> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Denis Walker wrote: >> >>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:20:48 +0100 >>> From: Denis Walker <denis at ripe.net> >>> To: Richard Kojedzinszky <krichy at tvnetwork.hu> >>> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net >>> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] whois mntner >>> >>> Dear Richard >>> >>> There is an easy way to do this with Webupdates. Starting with the >>> "Modify or Delete an object" page on the url you mentioned, >>> https://apps.db.ripe.net/webupdates/search.html, enter your MNTNER >>> object name in the search box then select the "modify object in single >>> text area" option. When you click on "Search" you will see the full >>> object, including the "auth:" attributes, in a text area. You can copy >>> and paste this data and use any update method you choose. >>> >>> Please note that this only has an impact on changes to the MNTNER object >>> itself, as requested by the community through the RIPE Database Working >>> Group (DB WG) to hide the MD5 hashes from public view. Changing any >>> other object type remains as it was. The change was discussed in detail >>> on the DB WG mailing list. If you have any suggestions on this >>> behaviour, you may wish to discuss them on that list. >>> >>> Full details of how the new process works can be seen here: >>> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/securing-md5-hashes-in-the-ripe-database >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Denis Walker >>> Business Analyst >>> RIPE NCC Database Group >>> >>> >>> On 17/02/12:8 4:19 PM, Richard Kojedzinszky wrote: >>>> Dear members, >>>> >>>> Maybe a stupid question, but I am used to update objects via signed >>>> emails. Now, a mntner object cannot be queried fully, I got a filtered >>>> result always, even with the maintainer not containing md5 passwords. >>>> So I >>>> am missing the auth: fields. >>>> >>>> $ whois -T mntner -B -r MNT-RK1387-RIPE >>>> % This is the RIPE Database query service. >>>> % The objects are in RPSL format. >>>> % >>>> % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. >>>> % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf >>>> >>>> % Information related to 'MNT-RK1387-RIPE' >>>> >>>> mntner: MNT-RK1387-RIPE >>>> descr: Maintainer of RK1387-RIPE >>>> admin-c: RK1387-RIPE >>>> upd-to: richardk at tvnetwork.hu >>>> mnt-by: MNT-RK1387-RIPE >>>> referral-by: MNT-RK1387-RIPE >>>> changed: richardk at tvnetwork.hu 20080417 >>>> changed: krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814 >>>> changed: krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814 >>>> source: RIPE # Filtered >>>> >>>>> From https://apps.db.ripe.net/webupdates/search.html altough I can >>>>> query >>>> the full object: >>>> >>>> mntner: MNT-RK1387-RIPE >>>> descr: Maintainer of RK1387-RIPE >>>> admin-c: RK1387-RIPE >>>> upd-to: richardk at tvnetwork.hu >>>> auth: PGPKEY-8F59B1B7 >>>> auth: X509-2577 >>>> mnt-by: MNT-RK1387-RIPE >>>> referral-by: MNT-RK1387-RIPE >>>> changed: richardk at tvnetwork.hu 20080417 >>>> changed: krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814 >>>> changed: krichy at tvnetwork.hu 20090814 >>>> source: RIPE >>>> >>>> >>>> And as I am used to copy-paste the result, change what I like, and then >>>> send it back, this does not work anymore. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions are welcome. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Kojedzinszky Richard >>>> Euronet Magyarorszag Informatikai Zrt. >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >>>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >>>> general page: >>>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view >>>> >>>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >>>> From here, you can add or remove addresses. >>>> >>> >> >
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