[members-discuss] A Whim about next year's fees

Strange situation.

If IPv4 is dead, not important, to be forgotten soon, which is the 
problem to pay more if you use a lot of IPv4 resources?

For sure is not your problem, as all of you is going to leave IPv4.

So, please, make a reasonable pricing based on fixed fee + usage of 
every resource.
More resource you use (IPv6, IPv4, IPv7, IPv8) more you pay. Exactly 
like water, gas, trash, etc.

I agree on a base fee around 800-1.000 EUR, adding costs of consumed 
resources (new entries pay the same as old entries).

Regards,

Tonino

Il 14/02/2012 19:45, Henrik Kramshøj Solido NOC abuse ha scritto:
> On 14/02/2012, at 19.05, Lu Heng wrote:
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>> Hi Henrik:
> Hi All
>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> In theory, you are absolute right, we really should forgot the IPv4 and move to the IPv6 now.
> Theory is practice now, don't ignore it
>> I personally really like to see it happen even just tomorrow.
>>
>> However, in real world, we as a small company don't have control of situation.
> Neither have I, I decided actually that we should become LIR (dk.solidonetworks) just recently.
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>> I can not tell you what business we really in, but what I can tell is, it is really not up to us if we want to throw IPv4 into the trash bin.
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>> I believe it is goes the same for most people here, internet is inter-connected, nobody can move to IPv6 alone, we need each other to move forward to it.
>>
>> So at least for the moment and the forcastable future, we will still in need of IPv4, so as many of other colleagues.
> Not really, what we NEED is IPv6 - IPv4 will just hang around more and more, until it gets to annoying. Nobody NEEDS IPv4, perhaps they need to LIVE WITH IPv4 for some time. its like saying you NEED wired Ethernet to be on the internet
>
> IPv4 is not NEED, we have had IPv4 for lots of years, we have tools for browsing the internet through proxies etc. and the 90% percent of what people do and use, most "regular internet users" are using very few resources - like facebook, youtube, gmail, linkedin etc.
>
> The main sites and services are rapidly moving to IPv6, Akamai for instance just days ago said on twitter
> #v6World - Christian Kaufmann #Akamai: We now have 954 #IPv6 BGP sessions, over 1/4 of total #IPv4 sessions.
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> Mobile devices are taking over the internet, more devices will be mobile than cabled, so IF your business depends on some obscure hardware devices that does not support IPv6 - like various DSL devices in Denmark for instance, they are DYING and DYING fast.
>
> I hope the best for you and your business plans, I cannot fathom though what business REQUIRES IPv4 for the foreseeable future - but my guess - it will DIE and be replaced by companies that understand the need for connectivity with the rest of the world - you know, IPv6 ;-)
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> Best regards
>
> Henrik
>
> PS I wrote my thesis about IPv6 at diku.dk in 2002 and did my first ping6 on AIX in the 1990s. So yes, I am quite biased towards IPv6 :-)
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> PPS I have also been in Africa and even though they ran oooold Windows versions they were further into the future with 3G data etc. Do NOT make the assumption that hardware will not be replaced if it does not live up to user expectations anymore.
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