[members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments

Hi,

Fully agree.

Best regards,
Robert


Robert Güntensperger
Swisscom (Schweiz) AG
Product IT Access Plattforms



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|bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of MB Registryno
|Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:56 AM
|Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
|Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board
|comments
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|Hi
|
|Shooting at the meeting cost and training cost is an easy target, but in
|my opinion slightly silly.
|
|RIPE NCC does live in the same economical reality as the rest of us.
|
|They can implement bugdet cuts like everyone else, so look hard at your
|costs and come up with cost-saving measure and let your members vote on
|it like they usually do at the RIPE meeting.
|
|Mvh
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|From: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-
|bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Sascha Luck
|Sent: 4. oktober 2011 23:10
|To: Christopher Kunz
|Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
|Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board
|comments
|
|Hi,
|
|On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:57:49PM +0200, Christopher Kunz wrote:
|>I think the meeting and trainings offered by RIPE shouldn't be seen
|with
|>the attitude of "I never used it, so you should pay for it". IMHO, the
|>trainings (of which I never could attend one due to lack of a travel
|>budget) and the meetings (ditto) serve a very important purpose for the
|>community: They make it easier for new LIRs to receive the know-how
|>necessary to run their services smoothly. By learning the ropes, they
|>save all the other LIRs time and subsequently, money.
|
|Training and meetings are two things I'd never argue for the cutting of.
|Centralising training is also not really an option as the RIPE
|membership exceeds well beyond the borders of the EU and I do not expect
|inbound travel to get any easier for non-EU residents due to political
|mood swings within the EU.
|Since the meetings are usuall held in EU cities anyway, I'd argue for
|centralising them in NL *if* it would save a significant amount of
|money.
|
|>That's why I'll agree to pay for trainings I never use - because I can
|>be fairly certain I'll benefit indirectly.
|
|Fully agree. And a suggestion to the NCC: Maybe incorporating a tutorial
|on subscribing to RIPE mailing lists into the LIR training would be a
|good
|idea ;)
|
|>And to the people who want RIPE to cut costs by not offering free Wi-fi
|>at their events (etc.): Please tell me that was a joke. In my book
|>that's like not offering complimentary seats during a train ride.
|
|I blame Ryanair and Michael O'Leary for bringing that attitude into the
|world...
|
|cheers,
|Sascha Luck
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