This archive is retained to ensure existing URLs remain functional. It will not contain any emails sent to this mailing list after July 1, 2024. For all messages, including those sent before and after this date, please visit the new location of the archive at https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/[email protected]/
[members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments
- Previous message (by thread): [members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments
- Next message (by thread): [members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
Christopher Kunz
chris at filoo.de
Tue Oct 4 22:57:49 CEST 2011
Hi all, > In general, given that probably every member is feeling the current > economic crisis and the NCC budget is rising steadily as if nothing > had happened, something will have to give eventually... Is it really that big a deal? We are a fairly small LIR, but even in our yearly spendings, RIPE membership fees are one of the smaller factors. Even in the current climate, I'd probably look at other possibilities to save money before thinking about where I can squeeze 500 bucks a year from my RIPE membership. I think the meeting and trainings offered by RIPE shouldn't be seen with the attitude of "I never used it, so you should pay for it". IMHO, the trainings (of which I never could attend one due to lack of a travel budget) and the meetings (ditto) serve a very important purpose for the community: They make it easier for new LIRs to receive the know-how necessary to run their services smoothly. By learning the ropes, they save all the other LIRs time and subsequently, money. Why? Because, for instance, in a largely saturated market like colo/hosting/isp stuff, you are constantly interacting with "the old provider" and "the new provider". And it's a real PITA if you have to tell those guys what an inetnum object is and how to send a PGP signed message to auto-dbm while you are actually *losing a customer* to them. I bet everyone of you can find a dozen similar examples. That's why I'll agree to pay for trainings I never use - because I can be fairly certain I'll benefit indirectly. And to the people who want RIPE to cut costs by not offering free Wi-fi at their events (etc.): Please tell me that was a joke. In my book that's like not offering complimentary seats during a train ride. Just my two cents, --ck -- Filoo GmbH Christopher Kunz, Geschäftsführer Web: http://www.filoo.de/ E-Mail: chris at filoo.de Tel.: (+49) 0 52 48 / 1 89 84 -11 Fax: (+49) 0 52 48 / 1 89 84 -20 Please sign & encrypt mail wherever possible, my key: C882 8ED1 7DD1 9011 C088 EA50 5CFA 2EEB 397A CAC1 Moltkestraße 25a 33330 Gütersloh, Germany HRB4355, AG Gütersloh Geschäftsführer: S.Grewing, J.Rehpöhler, C.Kunz Folgen Sie uns auf Twitter: http://twitter.com/filoogmbh
- Previous message (by thread): [members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments
- Next message (by thread): [members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]