[members-discuss] [Ticket#2011100301001792] Discussion : Cost allocation

Hi, Erik!

 >> 1) a discussion about what is the cost and do we want to keep the cost
allocation
>> as is. For instance, do we keep a 650k Euro loss a year for the RIPE
meetings or
>> is a change in operating / cost allocation required ?
>
>I see that in budget for 2011 year scheduled expenditure:
>
>RIPE meeting - 875 kEUR
>Training Courses - 383 kEUR
>Regional Meetings - 263 kEUR,
>
>Summary meeting cost: 1521kEUR.
>
>Now we have the following situation: each LIR pays defined cost for all of
meetings which are being hold during whole year. But actually not every
LIR->representative visits such meetings.
>So there is a question: Maybe there is no need to hold such meetings and
trainings while we could run a lot of Webinars. Webinars would not be such
>cost-based as real meetings, but could be such useful as them.

If you look closer to the RIPE meetings for instance, there is also an income
to
the RIPE meetings. It is about 250k Euro a year if I'm correct.
And the RIPE meetings are in fact, open to members and none-members ...
 
Yes. 1521 - 250 = 1271 kEUR.

 Is it required to hire a boat / hotel etc for a week to accommodate the
number to
participants including full service (foot and free drinks) in order to have
the
meetings. And why should the membership fee pay for this 625k Euro yearly
loss?
I see no shame in using a way of recovering for the open bars .. For instance
by
the use of tickets / chips. X free drinks per RIPE attendee, additional chips
at
2.50 euro per chip. And those chips can be used for food and/or drinks.
 
I sure that if someone need this service - they can pay it. It is not right to
distribute
expenses to all members. I think each person who will drink and eat can buy
what they will.

 Do I even dare to ask what the cost is going to be for the temp setup of free
wifi
in the venue's for only 1 week for about 400 people with each (on average) 3
wifi
capable devices each ?
 
The same. I suggest to buy it if they need. I cost too much. Why should pay
for that
member which don't need it.

 On the training courses, it is my personal view that the setup fee should
cover a
part of the training cost.
That means that per new lir there should be a limited number of free seats for
each training.. and every additional consumed training seat should be paid
for.
The companies that have lots of changes in their trained employees, that they
should also pay for additional seats used during the trainings.
 
Why part? Setup fee for trainings should cover all training cost. If I need
this service - I'll buy it.
We don't have to distribute this expeneses to all LIRs. It is logical.

--
Alexey S Ivanov
General Director
LeaderTelecom Ltd
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