{Spam?} RE: Re: [members-discuss] New Charging Scheme

This is the point I about made a thousand emails ago.
As I understand it there is no requirement for a PI user to be a member of RIPE now or under the new proposals although membership now and in the future is desireable. BUT there was a contradiction. Under the old rules if an LIR sponsored a PI user no one paid anything (but some LIRs charged the user). However if the user became a small LIR they paid a membership. RIPE (and the LIR members who went to conference and bothered to read all these proposals earlier - 2 years in the discussion) decided that the best approach was to encourage everyone to come under the RIPE banner and charge for PI assignments or the alternative of a xxs or xs membership. 
Hearing all the debates this was the best option and avoids users being help to ransom as the IPV4 space dries up.
My company became a small LIR 3 years ago as an alternative to a BT sponsored PI.
It seems a lot of people want to reinvent the wheel when all this has been gone thru in the rigorous RIPE process - if you didn't join in then don’t complain now.

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From: members-discuss-admin at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Laurent Santoul
Sent: 08 August 2011 14:30
To: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: Re: [members-discuss] New Charging Scheme

Hi Rob, that was my initial understanding of the document.
As far as I understood, the new rules are meant not to have any sponsoring
LIR any more, but to have all the users of any resource directly refer to
the RIPE.
I don't understand the purpose of this policy, but that's it.
If I am wrong, I would like to receive a clarification from the RIPE.

Il 02/08/2011 12.05, Rob Evans ha scritto:
> Paolo, Patrick,
>
> I may be missing something here from nothing more than a quick scan of the document, but where does it say that all PI users must be members of the RIPE NCC?
>
> It mentions Direct Assignment Users, but aren't those are the chaps that already have a direct contract with the NCC under 2007-01?  What prohibits the current setup of a "sponsoring LIR?"
>
> Best,
> Rob
>
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