[members-discuss] New Charging Scheme

Yes, sure, ipv4 will be around for quite a few decades to come, in older 
packet radio networks, military tactical internet, configuration vlans of 
older equipment, etc, but it has no future on the internet.

those "few well known sites" is all it takes, really.

eyeballs -> few well known sites

and the rest is pretty much -irrelevant-, and simply will have to follow, 
or die.

and yes, we have run dual stack for the past few years (triple stack if 
you consider that we also run X.25 for emergency networks should the 
internet ever fail due to military intervention or crisis situations ;)

we'd very much like to see the intarrwebz ditch ipv4 however, it has no 
future, there is no need to develop for it (neither software, nor billing 
models ;), get over it.



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On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, Redi Tela wrote:

> Have you guys tried IPV6 ? IPv4 is not dead at all, it will be here for
> years. There are only about 6K prefixes and you can only browse just a few
> 'well-known' sites.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-discuss-admin at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-admin at ripe.net]
> On Behalf Of Brandon Butterworth
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 4:22 PM
> To: jblessing at llnw.com; sven at cb3rob.net
> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] New Charging Scheme
>
>> regarding the ipv4 address space, we've actually tried to announce some
>> e-class space over the past days, appearantly, most, if not all, routers
>> filter it.
>
> Interesting, but doesn't matter, v4 is dead, get over it (as you
> eloquently explained previously)
>
>> furthermore, we've found a bunch of legacy ranges, which are not
>> announced at all, so if the DoD and IBM would be kind enough to hand
>> them over to ARIN/IANA, that would be appreciated
>
> No, that'd just give people an excuse to put off v6 for even longer.
>
> v6 or die.
>
>> don't see why "the prudential insurance company of america" would need an
>> /8, clearly they don't see the point of it themselves either, as they
>> don't announce a single ip out of it :P
>
> You're not allocating it to them so it doesn't matter what point
> you see.
>
> Back when it may have been of use I agreed, space allocated for non
> internet use could have been considered a different non overlapping
> realm and the entire space used on the internet regardless of any
> private allocations for non internet use. However that wasn't how it
> was chosen to be done and again it no longer matters as it's history
> now.
>
> brandon
>
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