[members-discuss] Re: New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models: Feedback Required

Hello,
can someone from RIPE NCC provide calculation similat to current
charging scheme (expected numbers of LIR members per category) and
number of affected LIRs with the change. I expect these numbers already
exists in RIPE NCC and these was used for this proposal - there must be
some source data for selecting member category based on IPv4
callocations size in presented document. And these data should be
presented together with this proposar.

I'm supporting this kind of simplification of LIR size calculation, but
personally I feel that IPv4 allocations per category should be changed.
There's disproportion between number of addresses and category -
organisations holding for example one milion addresses will pay only
double price, compared to organizations holding 65 thousand addresses,
even is holding much more of resourcess. In terms of fairness - large
resource holders are favorized opposed to small ones.  I think,
allocations per category should be considered to be more fair (that's
means up to /22 in XXS, /21 in XS, /20-/16 in S, /15-/12 in L
category... for example). My current feeling from presented model is,
that many currently small LIRs will fall to medium category, just due to
this change. And, current minimal allocation for LIR is /21 [*ripe509,
section 5.1] - that means, every new LIR will be automatically in small
category (and new LIRs will pay more then) - and that's wrong in my eyes.

Also, current model of 50EUR per independent resource is quite clear I
think it can remain in the new charging scheme. At least, proposed model
two, where PI are charged I'm supporting. There should be some
regulation represented by additional "fee" for PI resources, as these
are sometimes misused by organisations expected to be a LIR (and
there're some organisations/LIRs activelly selling PI address space as
their "service", charging much more [more than double] than they pay for
the resource in RIPE).

With regards,
Daniel


On 08/01/2011 05:17 PM, Nigel Titley wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> The RIPE NCC Executive Board will present a new Charging Scheme to the
> membership at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) to be held in Vienna on
> 2 November 2011.
> 
> The Executive Board is working with the RIPE NCC Senior Management on
> various options that could be included in the Charging Scheme. It would
> like to solicit feedback from members on two Charging Scheme models
> before deciding on a final version to present at the GM.
> 
> The two models are based on established RIPE NCC organisational
> principles. Both models, as well as an explanation of the models'
> features and differences, are presented at:
> https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/november-2011/ripe-ncc-proposed-new-charging-scheme-2012
> 
> 
> The RIPE NCC Executive Board welcomes any feedback on the proposed
> models. You can provide your feedback by using the online form or by
> sending an email directly to agm at ripe.net.
> 
> After considering the feedback from the membership on the proposed
> Charging Scheme models, the Executive Board will decide which model it
> will present to the membership at the GM.
> 
> If you wish to discuss the proposed new Charging Scheme models with
> other RIPE NCC members, please start a discussion on the
> members-discuss at ripe.net mailing list. Information about this list can
> be found online at:
> https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/member-support/info/membership-mailing-lists
> 
> 
> We look forward to hearing your comments.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nigel Titley
> RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman
>