[members-discuss] Discuss Charging Scheme 2010

Max Tulyev wrote:
> Martin,
> 
> Votes can be done as PGP signed e-mails. These e-mails can be published
> on web site or sent to all interesting people via e-mail. So everyone
> can check their votes are counted right. As anybody can check PGP signs,
> it is not a problem voting through RIPE NCC web site.
> 
> P.S. Remember the board elections: people put ballots inside a hat, then
> a few guys went out with the hat, did something (probably counted
> ballots) and said the result. So the current voting system already not
> better than voting through the LIR portal ;)


Well,
they didn't leave. They were in the back of the room.

But yes, any online voting system will

a) give more people a chance to vote

and

b) be more precise


I just stated by personal preference and reasoning. Do what you want
from there :) I know what I'm voting for, if it comes up to a vote.

Kind regards,
Martin List-Petersen
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> 
> Martin List-Petersen wrote:
>> Hank Nussbacher wrote:
>>> At 01:41 PM 19-06-09 +0100, Rob Evans wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>> voting through the lir portal, great idea.
>>>>> (first on the agenda, the correction of 2007-01)..
>>>> Could you clarify what you want electronic voting for?
>>>>
>>>> The policy development process?  Which doesn't have any voting at the
>>>> moment, it is a consensus-based approach on open mailing lists -- please
>>>> read the link that Andy Davidson sent around earlier for more
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> Or the General Meeting where decisions are made relating to the RIPE
>>>> NCC?  (Voting on the RIPE NCC executive board, accepting the charging
>>>> scheme and budget, etc.)
>>> Budgets, charging schemes, etc.  If a vote is called for at an AGM and
>>> 50 out of 5000 people vote, there should be the ability to submit ones
>>> vote via the LIR Portal as well.  It is called democracy.
>> Well. It goes even further.
>>
>> At the AGM it was raised, if this should be done via a postal voting
>> system, the LIRportal or an external open source system.
>>
>> And to be honest, the LIRportal is in control of the NCC.
>>
>> I made it very clear, that I'd prefer
>>
>> a) if we spend money/ressources on something to let anybody benefit from
>> that, ergo send it towards and existing open source system,
>>
>> b) i'd like to be able to check myself, that the underlying voting
>> system actually does, what it says on the tin.
>>
>> c) maybe we don't want to give the NCC any chance (we know they don't do
>> it, but why tempt them), with tampering with the way the system counts
>> the votes.
>>
>> The external open source system, maybe even handled by an external
>> entity would cover all those 3 points.
>>
>> Now, the vote on that hasn't been done yet, but there was some clear
>> opinions on where we go, because I didn't stand alone in the room with
>> that opinion.
>>
>> As for budgets, charging schemes, etc., yes, that's up for
>> vote/discussion at the AGM. Correct.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Martin List-Petersen
> 
> 


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