[members-discuss] Discuss Charging Scheme 2010

Sven,

Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
> Instead of asking 50 euros per assignment per ??year/month/cow/whatever??,
> it would make more sense to check if assignments are actually
> announced and if they are not, delete them after 3 years or so.

this is the key point. Visibility of any (including PA) network from
$point_of_Internet is NOT a mandatory. Some PI is only from
interconnecting N networks and not for global routing. And also, due to
current Internet structure, you can't garant global reachability of any
network. You can see it through looking glassess - "full view" size some
times more than 10% different from LG to LG.

> so this is a "solution" to a non-existing "problem"..

If you know how to catch dead DAs other than recurring fee - where you
was when 2007-01 was in discussion phase?

> besides, anyone looked at their concept-contract? it's like 3 meters long!

We have own contract for DAs, it is accepted by RIPE NCC hostmasters. It
has only 4 pages.

> our "contracts" are usually verbal and go like "we will register some PI
> space for you, if you pay us EUR 2500 "Administration fee" for the work

OMG! Our fee is 10 times less :) and 100 EUR annual as for the biggest
case in 2010 charging scheme proposal. Anyone are welcome! =)

Anyway, how you are catching your dead DAs, if any?

-- 
WBR,
Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO)