[ncc-announce] Re: [members-discuss] Discuss Charging Scheme 2010

sergey,

it is possible and legal, but smells very very bad. I thing we should do
something against it.

sergey myasoedov wrote:
> Dear Andrea,
> 
> will be implemented 'LIR change' for DA holders?
> 
> It is possible for the LIR owner to register a new LIR for a new company, then to sign new
> contracts with DA holders (transfer DA to new LIR), and do not pay the yearly invoice?
> 
> 
> 
> You wrote Thursday, June 18, 2009, 2:49:00 PM:
> 
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>> Dear Natalya,
> 
>> Natalya Petrova wrote:
>>> RegID: kz.kazaktelecom
>>>
>>> Good morning, dear colleagues!
>>> Thanks for your message.
>>> I have read on a site the information be relative Charging Scheme
>>> 2010. There are some questions for me.
>>> I ask the help in the explanatory.
>>> Questions:
>>> 1) " - Direct assignments will have a recurring charge per assignment and the
>>> fee will be EUR 50 per direct assignment" - It mentions only PI? or
>>> PA? or PI+PA?
> 
>> According to the Draft Charging Scheme 2010 the 50 Euro per resource
>> applies to IPv4 and IPv6 PI Assignments, AS numbers, Internet Exchange
>> Point and Anycasting Assignments.
> 
>> PA IPv4 and IPv6 Allocations will instead determine the member billing
>> category.
> 
>>> 2) "fee will be EUR 50 per direct assignment" - It every month a
>>> payment? or every quarter? or for a year?
> 
>> The 50 Euro fee per Assignment would be charged on a yearly basis.
>> With regards to payment terms, you will receive the invoice according to
>> the Billing scheme chosen by your LIR (quarterly, half-yearly, yearly
>> invoices).
> 
>>> 3) "fee will be EUR 50 per direct assignment" - It is payment for what
>>> quantity of addresses (50EUR= ? IPs)?
> 
>> According to the current proposal, the 50 Euro fee will be charged per
>> Assignment. The charge will not depend on the number of IP Addresses the
>> Assignment is made of.
> 
>>> 4) " - Direct assignments will have a recurring charge per assignment and the
>>> fee will be EUR 50 per direct assignment" - Operates for all direct
>>> assignments? or Only new direct assignments (included after 3 May,
>>> 2009)?
> 
>> All Assignments made since 1992 will be included.
> 
>> With the implementation of RIPE Policy "Direct Internet Resource
>> Assignments to End Users from the RIPE NCC", LIRs have the possibility
>> to inform the RIPE NCC which independent resources should stay with the
>> LIR and which should be moved (End User not their customer).
> 
>> The resources which will be moved, will be marked and excluded from your
>> LIR's 2010 invoice. Please see:
>> http://www.ripe.net/rs/pi-existing-assignments.html
> 
> 
>> I hope this clarifies.
>> Kind regards,
> 
>> Andrea Cima
>> Customer Services Manager
>> RIPE NCC
> 
> 
>>> I shall be very grateful for explanatories.
>>> Thanks for the help and understanding.
>>> Yours faithfully,
>>> Natalya
>>>
> 
> 
> 


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WBR,
Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO)