[members-discuss] Discuss Charging Scheme 2010

not that i consider it likely that any of them refuse to pay as some of
them already shitted their pants and asked us for new contracts that cover
recurring fees, but it's just plainly -wrong- to force existing
allocations to enter into new contracts.




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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:

> fact remains, the regulation of internet addresses by ripe and the
> outsource of such power is a "courtesy" rahter than actual "law".
>
> should any of our clients prefixes be deleted if they refuse to pay, we
> shall just continue to announce them.
>
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> Sven Olaf Kamphuis
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> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Michiel Klaver wrote:
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> > On 19-6-2009 13:55, Martin List-Petersen wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The RIPE example contract(1) for the 2007-01 policy indicated there
> > >> should be a periodic maintenance fee under section 4.2. At the last RIPE
> > >> meeting there were questions asked about the amount that a LIR should
> > >> ask for this fee, but no concrete answers were given.
> > >>
> > >> The new (draft) charging scheme indicates an amount of 50eur/year, but
> > >> all our new 2007-01 PI space with contracts have a lower maintenance fee
> > >> amount. It would have been a lot less complicated if this was discussed
> > >> and all clear before the new PI policy 2007-01 was accepted.
> > >>
> > >> (1) http://www.ripe.net/membership/lir-end-user-agreement.html
> > >>
> > >
> > > The examples at the GM given were 50 EUR/year, 100 EUR/year and
> > > something else. I think that gave enough indication, of where they were
> > > proposing to go.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Martin List-Petersen
> >
> >
> > Those were examples/indications at the GM held at 6th of May 2009, while
> > the PI policy 2007-01 is in effect since 3rd of March 2009. And even now
> > the charging scheme for 2010 is still a draft, it should have been final
> > at the introduction of PI policy 2007-01 at 3rd of March.
> >
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > Michiel Klaver BA.ict
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