[members-discuss] Discuss Charging Scheme 2010

Salut,

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:50:40PM +0100, Martin List-Petersen wrote:
> The ones that get hit are the ones that abused the PI scheme to not pay
> for PA or RIPE membership. For everyone else it's pretty much something
> that falls under the table. It's 4.17EUR/month per allocation. If you
> don't make that kindda money of your PI customers on top of your cost,
> your business isn't viable. And yeah .. you can just charge it on to
> them or eat the cost. Latter wouldn't make a difference to the customer
> as long as they are with you.

That doesn't work for all cases. There are for example things such as
non-commercial internet exchanges - the SwissIX for example comes to mind.

The SwissIX owns a PI /24 IPv4 network, a /64 IPv6 network and an aut-num
 for the route server. Since all fiber and switches are sponsored by
 association members, the connection fee is 0.-

With the advent of the new charging scheme, RIPE now suddenly does want (they
refuse to make an exception as far as I know) to charge SwissIX the regular
fee for PI ressources - which sums up to EUR 150.- per year as far as I can 
tell. This is not something which can be "reclaimed" from a customer, though -
it is simply money a free-of-charge non-profit internet exchange does not have.

(And SwissIX is not totally negligible - after all, the 10 locations which are
distributed over 2 countries are currently exchanging an aggregated 5 Gbps. With
the opening of two new sites in Basel, this won't go down either.)

Following your suggestion would mean to ask all non-profit internet exchanges
to become profit oriented. I don't see the point in that though.

Kind regards,

				Tonnerre

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