<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>Re: [lir-wg] ICANN Reform</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyman Chapin" <lyman@acm.org> > > > >Emotionaly I would use as strong words as un-democratic and top-down > >on creations like this. > > Maybe the right way to do this is to say that the Board has the power > to change the bylaws and articles of incorporation (as a legal matter > of incorporation, which is currently in California), but that such a > change must be treated as a policy matter like any other, requiring > review and public comment from the community. In fact, that's what > we're doing with the proposed bylaw changes now - the process of > public discussion and comment has been going on since last February. Reform and changing the bylaws, was a self-manufactured smoke-screen to distract people while the .ORG re-delegation was being done behind the scenes and while the U.S. Government Department of Commerce extension was being done behind the scenes. As predicted, the "Reform Process" captured the imagination of the new, clueless, U.S. DOC employees, and they rubber-stamped a renewal like robots. Now that the smoke has cleared, people are saying, "Oh, now what ? We better generate a lot of revenue, because that is what the U.S. Government wants." That was about the only substantive comment the U.S. DOC made, they said they wanted ICANN to be well-funded. The best way to do that is to start charging ALL customers the same for IP address space leasing. ARIN and ICANN are corporations subject to U.S. laws. RIPE and APNIC may be under ARIN as is the case with LACNIC. That can be transparent to ICANN, above ARIN. <A HREF="http://lacnic.net/en/transition.html" TARGET="_blank">http://lacnic.net/en/transition.html</A> <A HREF="http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space" TARGET="_blank">http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space</A> U.S. companies must be consistent in their charging and charge rates based on market values to avoid concerns about dumping at below cost or cross-subsidies and bartering, where certain select vendors pay nothing or less because of insider relationships, as opposed to published, volume agreements that are available to all customers. Jim Fleming 2002:[IPv4]:000X:03DB:...IPv8 is closer than you think...IPv16 is even closer... <A HREF="http://www.ietf.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ietf.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space" TARGET="_blank">http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space</A> <A HREF="http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.dyndns.tv" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.dyndns.tv</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.dyns.cx" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.dyns.cx</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.no-ip.com" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.no-ip.com</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.no-ip.biz" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.no-ip.biz</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.no-ip.info" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.no-ip.info</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.myip.us" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.myip.us</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.dyn.ee" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.dyn.ee</A> <A HREF="http://ipv8.community.net.au" TARGET="_blank">http://ipv8.community.net.au</A> #*************************************************************************** # # Dit e-mailbericht met eventuele attachments is uitsluitend bestemd voor de # geadresseerde(n) en bevat mogelijk vertrouwelijke gegevens en/of is # beschermd door intellectuele eigendomsrechten. Bent u niet de # geadresseerde, neemt u dan zo spoedig mogelijk contact op met de afzender # en verzoeken wij u het e-mailbericht en eventuele attachments van uw # computer te verwijderen. Elk gebruik van de inhoud van dit e-mailbericht # en eventuele attachments (waaronder verveelvoudiging, verspreiding of het # anderzins openbaar maken in welke vorm dan ook) door andere personen dan # de bedoelde geadresseerden is verboden. De weergegeven mening is puur # persoonlijk en hoeft niet noodzakelijk over een te komen met die van # Enertel. Enertel is niet aansprakelijk voor de inhoud van dit # e-mailbericht en eventuele attachments. </BODY> </HTML>