[lir-wg] Problems with route object update

Hi Leo,


> >We have had the same situation a few times. The problem seems to be that
> >"Provider Independent" IP addresses are not at all provider independent
> >since the LIR is usually the maintainer of the inetnum object, so the
> >customer will not be able to take the PI net to another LIR unless the
> >previous LIR agrees to release the object.
> >
> >A solution could be to make the customer maintainer of the
> inetnum, that way
> >the customer could simply add the new LIR's maintainer to MNT-ROUTES.
>
> We recommend that End Users maintain their PI inetnum themselves if they
> want to do so. However, they are free to have their provider maintain it
> for them if they want that, instead.

Yes, I understand, the problem is if the LIR decides not to inform the
customer of this option, but if it was not an option for the LIR to be
maintainer of the customers PI assignment (end user mandatory maintainer) it
would solve the problem.

>
> If a maintainer is unable to update the object for the End User then
> please contact the RIPE NCC and we will try to help.

As I understand its not normal procedure for Ripe NCC to contact end users,
so Ripe NCC would have to determine which of the LIRs the customer had
chosen by speaking to each of the competitors (LIRs). Instead it would be
much easier if it was always the customer who was maintainer of the inetnum
object.

>
> Also, it is worth noting that where two maintainers need to agree to the
> creation of a route object then both authentications can be passed to
> the database in the same e-mail. We have a graphical representation of
> the authentication rules at this page:

Yes, the representation is actually quite nice, but the issue is not
technically how to create the route object.



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