[lir-wg] Action from RIPE 42: Sub-Allocations revisited

Hi,


> Hi,
>
> I have waited for a few days before responding, to wait for more comments,
> but nothing yet :-/

Yes, I had also hoped for some comments..

>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:33:50AM +0100, Stephen Burley wrote:
> > My first comment - BTW this is a well outlined.
> >
> >  - All assignments from the Sub-Allocation are done by the Sub-LIR.
> >    The Sub-LIR is responsible to the LIR for following policies and
> >    procedures.  The LIR is responsible to the RIR for making sure that
> >    the Sub-LIR follows the procedures.  This is no big difference from
> >    what is being *done* now, it's just "officially documented".
> >
> > I feel the Sub-LIR should still be responsible to RIPE for
> approvals etc.
>
> This is tricky, because the Sub-LIR has no contract with RIPE, so
> responsibility isn't easy.   Also, this would mean added cost, I'd say.
>
> I'm not sure why you think it is necessary, though.
>
> If the LIR is responsible to RIPE for everything itself and the Sub-LIR
> does, and the LIR will run into problems with RIPE if "they do not
> keep their house in order", it's in their interest to make sure that the
> Sub-LIR does also do the right thing.
>
> Of course, the maximum assignment that any Sub-LIR does has to be inside
> the AW of the LIR - otherwise the LIR cannot approve it themselves or
> delegate responsibility, but has to go to RIPE for this
> assignment - whoever
> is requesting it.
>

I agree with Gert, its the LIRs responsibility that the sub-LIR acts
appropriately.

I don't think that the LIR's AW is relevant for the sub-LIR, all assignments
made by the sub-LIR has to be approved by the LIR, if the assignment is
within the LIR's AW then there is no problem, if not, the LIR has to ask
Ripe as with any other assignment larger than AW.



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