[lir-wg] ICANN Reform

At 04:35 AM 10/8/2002, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Its also interesting to note that at least one RIR hasn't really put this
>> policy issue to its members as a propsed policy.  Really good for bottom
>> up processes :|
>
>some of the RIRs seem have a tradition of making policy in the back
>room and voting on engineering in group face-to-face meetings with
>very random proposals which almost all get voted 'yes'.
>
>needless to say, but i'll say it anyway, for an ietfer this seems
>ill-considered.

John, Randy,

Please name horse/rider and cite chapter/verse, *then* we can discuss
more meaningfully.

For the RIPE NCC my impression is, that the policy process is suffering 
from *too much* confidence of the community in the RIR rather than too little.
This tends to make all parties complacent and mistakes can happen.

However this needs to be put into perspective: too much confience is a
problem that is *orders of magnitude* less grave than no confidence,
which is ICANN's problem.

Daniel