KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.

Indeed, for example k.root-servers.net is hosted at LINX and is reachable
globally by this kind of setup..

Steve

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Jared Mauch wrote:

> 
> 	While a good idea, not everyone can announce or reach the
> IX fabrics that they connect to or are out there.
> 
> 	One solution to that problem is to have the IX operate a
> zeebra/gated/whatnot box (or router+machine combo) that
> announces a /24 and as part of connecting to the IX people
> are required to peer (and provide transit) for that /24 for
> the "good of the internet".
> 
> 	This would allow everyone that connects to the IX to see
> the benifits of having a close (to their network that is) dns server
> as well as if my provider does not announce the DE-CIX, LINX, mae-e, mae-w,
> paix, nyiix, or whatever space to me, i can still reach a server
> placed at the IX via their network or via their peers/upstreams.
> 
> 	- Jared
> 
> http://puck.nether.net/dns/
> (very rough ui)
> 
> On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:07:09PM +0200, Nipper, Arnold wrote:
> > 
> > As a lot of people are offering secondary services: may be it's a good idea
> > to place infrastructural services at IXP. IXP seem to be more stable than
> > any ISPs and often more neutral than ISPs.
> > 
> > Comments?
> > 
> > 
> > Arnold
> > --
> > Arnold Nipper, DE-CIX, the German Internet Exchange
> > email: arnold.nipper at de-cix.net
> > mobile: +49 172 2650958
> > handle: an6695-ripe
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sabine Dolderer/Denic" <dolderer at denic.de>
> > To: "Jan-Ahrent Czmok" <czmok at gatel.net>
> > Cc: <apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net>; <apops at lists.apnic.net>; <ddiaz at ripe.net>;
> > <joao at ripe.net>; <lir-wg at ripe.net>; <nanog at merit.edu>; <randy at psg.com>;
> > <routing-wg at ripe.net>; <tech-l at ams-ix.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some
> > other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer
> > secondary service for other ccTLDs. But there will be because of
> > security/stability reasons a limit on the number of ccTLDs we want to run
> > on a single machine.
> > 
> > Sabine
> > 
> > --
> > Sabine  Dolderer
> > DENIC eG
> > Wiesenhüttenplatz 26
> > D-60329 Frankfurt
> > 
> > eMail: Sabine.Dolderer at denic.de
> > Fon: +49 69 27235 0
> > Fax: +49 69 27235 235
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >                     Jan-Ahrent
> >                     Czmok                An:     Joao Luis Silva Damas
> > <joao at ripe.net>
> >                     <czmok at gatel.        Kopie:  randy at psg.com,
> > ddiaz at ripe.net, routing-wg at ripe.net,
> >                     net>                 lir-wg at ripe.net, tech-l at ams-ix.net,
> > apops at lists.apnic.net,
> >                     Gesendet von:        nanog at merit.edu,
> > apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net
> >                     owner-lir-wg@        Thema:  Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net
> > server.
> >                     ripe.net
> > 
> > 
> >                     06.06.2002
> >                     01:29
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > PostedDate: 06.06.2002 01:29:37
> > $MessageID: <20020606012937.2c476312.czmok at gatel.net>
> > From: owner-lir-wg at ripe.net
> > SendTo: Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net>
> > CopyTo:
> > randy at psg.com;ddiaz at ripe.net;routing-wg at ripe.net;lir-wg at ripe.net;tech-l at ams-
> > ix.net;apops at lists.apnic.net;nanog at merit.edu;apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net
> > 
> > Subject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
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> > WebSubject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:08:46 +0200
> > Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > >  > Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility
> > > >>  of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in
> > > >>  agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this
> > > >>  server (ns.eu.net) in its premises.
> > > >
> > > >nice emergency hack and sorry to whine.  but i used them both
> > > >to get diversity.
> > >
> > > Hi Randy,
> > >
> > > there are 16 ccTLDs for which ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net are both
> > > secondary. So we will definitely request those ccTLDs to look for a
> > > new host as soon as possible.
> > 
> > Hi Randy, hi Joao, dear routing-wg,
> > 
> > probably my Company (GATEL, AS13129) is able to host a secondary
> > server for the ccTLDs.
> > 
> > The question is rather what are the hardware "requirements" for the
> > secondary
> > server.
> > 
> > We have sufficient bandwidth capacity available and rack space as well.
> > 
> > > The rest can take bit more time to think what they want to do since
> > > ns.eu.net will keep running.
> > 
> > Well done ! Congrats for the good ideas and coordination work.
> > 
> > >
> > > We are offering secondary service on ns.ripe.net for any ccTLD that
> > > we weren't sencodaring for, as are other people.
> > >
> > > The idea is not to have ns.eu.net running for ever, just to enable
> > > people to have time to take rational decisions, without the fear of
> > > having the server going away because of some unexpected turn of
> > > events.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >when in less of a panic, please move it to moscow or something.
> > >
> > > Panic? what panic? this is just common sense
> > >
> > 
> > right. it's not panic.
> > 
> > --jan
> > 
> > --
> >      Jan Ahrent Czmok - Senior Network Engineer - Access Networks
> > Global Access Telecommunications, Inc. - Stephanstr. 3 - 60313 Frankfurt
> > voice: +49 69 299896-35 - fax: +49 69 299896-66 - email: czmok at gatel.de
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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