[lir-wg] AS Number Policy

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 02:42:26PM +0300, Vladimir A. Jakovenko wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 01:31:36PM +0200, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
> >>1. How long does the community believe it is reasonable to take to
> >>   bring an AS 'on-line'?
> >
> >  What is the definiton of "on-line" here?
> 
> I think it depends on how RIPE are going to check that. 

Yes. I had recently a lengthy "discussion" with RIPE hostmasters about
a multihomed AS of a customer. Primary upstream with us, secondary
upstream with AS702. Using 702:80 community to lower localpref within
702, making the backup link real backup. As 702 announces best path
(which is via their peering to us to the customer), RIPE was unable to
see the 702 backup announcement anywhere. Explanation of BGP basics by
myself were not understood or ignored. Or both. They also did not
contact AS702 for simple confirmation of what I've told them. Took three
or four emails to get that finally sorted out. Whom do I bill those 30-45
minutes to (rhetoric question)? ;->

End of the story was that they finally said "We have found AS21197 in
the import policy of AS702 and going to close this ticket now." :-]]]

IF they really want to enforce ASN assignment policy, they should REALLY
have to have a clue about BGP. Looking at some random looking glasses
or RIS data and not understanding it is NOT enough for a
policy-enforcing agency. And someone should explain them the difference
between a looking glass and a traceroute server.

Let's say... Halabi as compulsary lecture for hostmasters who have to
evaluate ASN assignment policy compliance. :-)


Regards,
Daniel