[lir-wg] AS Number Policy

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Christopher Sharp wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:57:46 +0300, Hank Nussbacher <hank at att.net.il> wrote:
> 
> >At 11:53 AM 09-07-02 +0200, leo vegoda wrote:
> >>1. How long does the community believe it is reasonable to take to
> >>  bring an AS 'on-line'?
> >3 months.
> >
> >>2. After how many months of not being in use should an AS be
> >>  returned?
> >3 months.
> >
> >3.After how many months of being single-homed should an AS be returned?
> >9-12 months.
> 
> I agree with the time scales for unused ASes and think Hank has raised a very
> valid point about those in use.I would be in favour of a 6 month timescale for
> return of these 'unless intent can be proven to re-multi-home within 3 months'.
> 
> Producing an easily enforceable policy covering those AS in use may be a little
> more complicated.I think most offenders who have become single-homed are
> likely to ignore warnings of an approaching return date until it arrives.I
> suggest a 6 month period of warning followed by a formal request for return and
> a 3 months for them to depreciate use of the AS and return it.The net result
> is a 9 month period of return with plenty of warning to depreciate use of a
> single-homed AS.
> 
> C.
> 

The problem I foresee will be removing an ASN.  RIPE has a policy of not
changing mntner objects or overriding them so if the ASN just ignores
RIPEs emails and continues to use the ASN - then what?

And even if RIPE manages to have a procedure for removing an ASN against
the will of the organization it was allocated to, what is to stop the
organization to continue to use it?  Those that follow NANOG have seen a
case of AS5757 which is not listed in any DB and it has been announced for
the past 3 years.

Hank Nussbacher