AS number revokes
Stephen Burley stephenb at uk.uu.net
Thu Feb 28 11:25:34 CET 2002
Thankyou. Where is this documented? > Hi, > > "Stephen Burley" <stephenb at uk.uu.net> writes: > * Hi > * I am a bit concerned about an email we recieved threatening the > * revokation of an assigned AS number if it did not appear to be used. It > * concerns me for a number of reasons. > * > * 1. Our customer has had problems with other providers and there own network, > * which has postponed the intended use of the AS for quite a few month, all > * due to things out of their and our control. > > This can always happen and we do ask several times for information before > mentioning the option of returning an assigned AS number which appears not > to be in use. The first time we ask is 6 months after the assignment. > > * 2. If you do revoke it then the customer may suddenly get things fixed and > * start using the AS as intended but in the meantime you assign it to another > * customer and the problems ensue. If you do not assign it why whould you ask > * for it back? > > If you do not use it why should you keep it? :) > Our intention is to make sure AS numbers are used and not wasted. > > We send several reminders asking about the status and this process is > taking a couple of months. If you are not able to start using the AS > number after a long time we ask you to return it. To date the RIPE NCC > Hostmasters could always find an agreement with the LIRs to return AS > numbers that appeared not to be in use. > > We do reassign returned AS numbers *not* straight away but after a certain > time period ("sleeping time") and ... > > * 3. Just because an AS does not appear in the looking glass does not mean > * that its not being used in situation which does not mean it does not need to > * be announced at any looking glass. > > ... we do not only use the Looiking Glass to find the number of peers. We look > back in time at least on several days using 'asiuse' - publicly know as the > RIS Database, from New Projects. > > * Please could you clarify this situation? > * > * Regards > * Stephen Burley > * UUNET EMEA Hostmaster > * SB855-RIPE > * > > > Regards, > > Sabrina Wilmot > > -- > > o------------------------------------------o > | Sabrina Wilmot sabrina at ripe.net | > | Registration Services Operations Manager | > | | > | RIPE NCC tel +31 20 535 4444 | > | www.ripe.net fax +31 20 535 4445 | > o------------------------------------------o > >
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