[lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued

Hi,

Sebastian Willing wrote:
> When starting as a LIR, you don't always have your upstreams. When we applied
> for LIR status we had two upstreams handy, with signed contracts and everything.
> At the time we finally got our AS, one of the upstreams was no longer existent.
> Today, providers, LIRs and upstreams come and go so fast.

Sure, becoming a LIR and obtaining an AS-Number are two very different things.
You dont need to be a LIR to get an AS-Number. You can apply for an AS-Number
as soon as you have routeable ip-space and 2 upstreams for BGP4 peering.
(Please correct me if they did change that recently)

> To keep the administrative overhead small, I'ld suggest to let the new AS-
> owner show at least two agreements within "x" month after the assignment of
> the AS-# only if there are less than two verified peerings. I'ld see a
> verified peering as a record in both AS's whois-entry _and_ seen on the RIPE
> BGP-router (or on some other "neutral" point, like EP routers).

If the RIPE will check for active announcements of AS-Nums there is no real
need for a written proof for the BGP4-upstreams, thats right. But IMO, the
rquirement
of a written verification will cut down the number of as-numbers which will
get
revoked later on.

best regards,

  Arnd
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