Creation of Reverse Delegation Objects

but RIPE gave the customer the space - it is PI space not PA space, the
'end customer' should be able to take care of their own space...

-lyric

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Dominic Spratley wrote:

> Hi Tanja,
>
> There are several reasons why we do not accept requests directly
> from end-users. Most are based on the fact that the Internet
> Registry system is hierarchical. This means that we are funded by
> LIRs to provide services to them, not to end-users.
>
> LIRs have more expertise in dealing with the RIPE Database than
> End Users. This is the main reason for requiring requests to come
> from them.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> Dominic Spratley,
>
> R.S. Assistant Manager,
> RIPE NCC
>
>
>
> At 09:45 AM 4/24/2002 +0200, Tanja Heimes wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >this ist the response of the RIPE Robot to one of our customers after he
> >tried to create a reverse delegation object in the RIPE DB:
> >
> >"The RIPE NCC no longer accepts requests for creation and ammendments
> >of reverse delegations which do not include the registry ID of an
> >existing Local Internet Registry.
> >
> >If you are not a representative of an LIR, you should contact the
> >LIR who assigned you the address space, or your upstream provider..."
> >
> >The customers owns his Provider Independent IP address space and is not
> >able to create this object as he needs to state a
> >reg-id in the request. Now this customers (and others in the past) claim
> >that they have to apply to there upstream provider in
> >order that this ISP creates the object. The customer certainly has is
> >own maintainer.
> >
> >My question now:
> >
> >Should  Provider Indepent IP space not be 100% Provider Indepent in
> >concern to its administration in the RIPE DB?
> >In my opinion the RIPE Robot should distinguish between PA and PI space
> >and not request an reg-id for customers that own PI
> >space and like to create a reverse delegation record.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Tanja Heimes
> >
> >
> >--
> >Tanja Heimes / IP Engineer              E-Mail Tanja.Heimes at de.cw.com
> >
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>
>

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lyric apted
ip engineering manager, vipar
lyric at verio.net
425.649.7491

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