MIR proposal

Stephen seems just wants to solve UUNET problem
with proposing MIR. However I am agree basically
with the Idea. APNIC has added NIR
( National Internet Registry ) to the hierarchy.
I think RIPE must let the NIRs as well.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Burley" <stephenb at uk.uu.net>
To: <crain at icann.org>; <lir-wg at ripe.net>
Sent: 06/09/2001 7:40 È.Ù
Subject: Re: MIR proposal


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John L Crain" <crain at icann.org>
> To: <lir-wg at ripe.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: MIR proposal
>
>
> > <CUT>
> >
> > Hi Gert,
> >
> > >
> > > And yes, this is also very much needed for IPv6.  Getting a /35 and
> > > having to hand out individual /48's to customers of customers of ours
> > > isn't going to build proper hierarchical routing.
> >
> > The concepts for IPv6 that are under discussion do already cover this.
> > An allocation goes to a large ISP who can then assign /48's directly to
> > networks connecting to them or shorter prefixes to
resellers/downstreams.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this works in IPv4 because of the limited amount of room
> we
> > have to play with.
>
> We are only limited because of teh current thinking and structure.
>
>
> >
> > I'm also not sure what the criteria would be in the proposal that
defines
> > who is and isn't allowed to become a MIR. It's certainly a differnet
> concept
> > to the present one in the RIPE region where LIR's don't "officially"
sub-
> > allocate.
> >
>
> Its not so different from the RIR model.
>
> > I can certainly see why a large ISP would want to do this. I'm not sure
> how
> > it changes the dynamics for smaller ISP's as to how they would get their
> IP
> > addresses. Becoming an LIR with an upstream rather than a regional
> registry
> > I assume means renumbering if you change the upstream.
> >
>
> MIR's are only to be created within a network (AS if you like) they would
> not suballocate to customers only LIR's withing their network (usualy
> country specific). Other LIR's not needing a MIR would deal direct with
the
> NCC. UUNET has 17 LIR's currently the MIR would suballocate to these not
to
> other ISP's or customers direct.
> BTW Nice to hear from you.
>
>
> > John Crain
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >