Criteria for initial PA Allocation

On Tue, 22 May 2001, Gert Doering, Netmaster wrote:

> While I can understand why people want this, it means that the chances
> for desasters actually increase a lot *due* to all those people.  Like
> "routers crashing due to RAM overflow".  Like "bogon routes announced
> all over the world due to incorrect filters", and so on.
> 
> > >  - discourage people from becoming LIR if that's only to get "portable"
> > >    address space, with no intention of handing PA space out to customers.
> > 
> > That's nice, but you'll have to be able to offer them a good alternative.
> 
> Why?  Just because that's the way it has always been?  (Not being overly
> cooperative today :-) )

Well, i tend to agree more with Gert... We reduce portability in order to
gain on aggregability and getting the global routing table as shorter as
we can... 
Perhaps if the "lazy people" could be forced to start using all
the alternatives to valid IP addresses we could get a greater improve...

Lack of knowledge about CIDR is also a big problem... i see some things
today that i really shouldnt see... 

I know that they ("dumb & lazy people") are getting the money in, but if
it could be explained to them that they will have to "fund" even more
because the global routing table is growing the way it is... they could get
convinced... (but anyway, the router manufacturers wouldnt like this
idea! ;-) )

I still didnt see one of my questions answered... is there anyway of
sweeping through ASNs to find the people that have them, and dont make a
"valid" use of those ASNs ?
(Im thinking about those people that only have one BGP peering, and those 
cases of companies buying others and just maintaining 2 or more ASNs...)

And if someone looses their ASN, what the problem about getting a new one
later if it can be properly justified ???

One other thing i would like to see would be an "European Initiative to
give back PIs space to ARIN" :-)
I got an OK from RIPE to exchange "X" PI space for "X" PA space from my
LIR, but this hasnt solved the whole lot of my cases... but then
again... my clients are too complex ! :-)

 
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> Gert Doering
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Thanks for your patience.

Regards,


./Carlos
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